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May 2025 Tarot Forecast: What the Universe Wants You to Know - Episode 162, S2

• Robyn Miller Brecker and Michelle Nolan • Season 2 • Episode 162

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If April had you feeling like you were tossed in a cosmic washing machine—fast, fiery, and all over the place—you’re not alone. May brings a different kind of energy. One that invites you to pause, feel deeply, and listen closely to what your soul is trying to say. We’re joined by our dear friend and Tarot Therapist Michelle Nolan to get the intuitive download for May—and this month is giving full-on Taurus vibes: grounding, heart-opening, and deeply transformational.

This month asks us to slow down enough to actually feel. Not just surface-level stuff, but the real, raw, soul-level sensations that we often avoid. It’s about coming home to your heart and allowing yourself to feel what’s been pushed aside—grief, joy, hope, uncertainty—and then choosing, from that honest place, what’s next. May wants you to choose love over fear. Faith over control. Trust over doubt.

Michelle pulled the Ace of Cups to kick things off—pure heart chakra energy. It’s a reminder that your heart knows the way, even when your mind wants all the details. You don’t have to have it all figured out. You just have to be willing to choose love and trust the Universe to guide your next steps. 

  • 00:14 Reflecting on April's Energies
  • 00:29 Taurus Energy and Sensuality
  • 01:19 Collective and Personal Energies
  • 02:31 Opening the Session for Channeling
  • 02:59 Taurus Heart and Sensuality
  • 04:59 Ace of Cups and Heart Chakra
  • 07:23 Navigating Choices and Intuition
  • 12:42 Trusting the Flow of Life
  • 14:39 Combining 3D World and Spiritual Energy
  • 16:25 Manifestation and Co-Creation
  • 17:35 Embracing the Journey
  • 19:10 Embracing Subtle Nudges and High Vibration Optimism
  • 20:47 Navigating the Heart of May: Embracing All Emotions
  • 22:55 Challenges of Isolation and Connection
  • 27:24 End of May: Confronting the Past and Choosing Love Over Fear
  • 38:19 Final Thoughts and Guidance for the Month Imagine it like walking down a moonlit path—at first you can’t see much, but as your eyes adjust, the way forward reveals itself.

May is about surrendering to that process. It’s not passive—it’s powerfully intentional. It’s about aligning with your inner truth, and then letting the Universe meet you halfway.

This is the month to say: I trust myself. I trust the timing. I trust the unfolding. We’re not in this alone. There’s a bigger energy at play—and it’s here to support our expansion. So what would shift if you made your next decision from a place of love and faith instead of fear and “what ifs”?

We dive deep into all of it in this episode—plus, Michelle shares how to work with May’s energy and how your own alignment can ripple out and uplift the collective. Because that’s what this month is also about—individual healing as a path to collective transformation. 

WORK WITH MICHELLE Reach out to her at m@mtnolan.com 

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Robyn: And for the best wellness and spiritual practitioners, experts, products, experiences, and inspo, visit theseekingcenter. com. Hi everyone. We are here with tarot therapist Michelle Nolan, to get an update on the energy for May, 2025. What can we expect and how can we best use the energy? Let's find out. Hi Michelle. Hi Robin. How are [00:01:00] you? , I am excited to hear about May, because April has been nutballs. That's what I'll say.

So . Aries just full force, right? Fire. Yes. Full force. So what is May gonna bring us? 

Michelle: Obviously Taurus Energy and I have to say, happy birthday again. Thank you. This is your season? 

Robyn: This is your season. It is. And it happens to be my husband, which you know, Jeff, it's his season.

We're both Tauruses. Yeah. Very earthy. Very 

Michelle: earthy and central. I love 

Robyn: it. Yeah. Extremely different like in terms of the rest of our charts, but their sun signs or Tauruses. 

Michelle: Yeah. You want very compatible. We are. Let's see, I am curious about May, because April was a whirlwinds and I think, just the hint of Aries coming into April was just to me it was like an explosion of energy.

And then I remember from the last reading, it really started to simmer down and calm down. Moving into Taurus right at the end of April. So I [00:02:00] guess we'll see if it continues. Into May or if it ramps up again. 

Robyn: Yeah. And as people listen, we're so interested to know, we can all see things from that collective perspective of what's going on.

In the world. And you can really feel this, but how is it also impacting you personally please feel free to always DM us at the Seeking Center on Instagram or email us , we are always interested to know how this is impacting you personally. 

Michelle: And you know how I read is I always feel like you need to start with your own individual energy first.

Kind of control that to your best of your ability, align with what's the highest potential and vibe for you internally. And that really affects the collective. And I actually think that's a really important theme particularly right now. But in this year in general, which I think it's about staying in that positive mindset and energy.

Have to I agree. And 

Robyn: I know from doing the work and practicing what we're talking [00:03:00] about, I'm able to move through the world. In a much more stable 

Michelle: way. Little detached, but not to the point of not being empathetic, but detached in the sense that, there is a larger outcome here and Yeah.

We're not always in control. 

Robyn: That's 

Michelle: right. Okay, so let's see. Alright, let's start there. Okay. As I like to open up the session for the channeling for the collective. Spirit, please open the session for the Seeking Center Collective and everyone who's listening, and please give me clear and concise messages for what is you wanna speak with them about today.

And please allow everyone to have an open heart and open mind to receive these messages. And as always, spirit, we thank you for your guidance and your protection today. So I already feel the energy in general, the Taurus heart that I'm feeling is, it's not just the slowness, it's this kind of heart centered that sensuality, if you think of what [00:04:00] sensuality really is it's all the senses, It is sight hearing, taste. Observation. It's the sensation of touch. It's everything. So if we think of what sensuality is and that such a taurean energy is we want to experience our 3D life, right? We wanna experience it in its totality, that's why we're giving the gift of sense. So that we can fully engage with it and just find the beauty in the world.

So I was just feeling that. Before I even looked at the cards, but that kind of feels like that really starting off for May, just that the senses which matches Taurus 

Robyn: there's no doubt. 

Michelle: So it feels like a really engaging energy if I remember correctly, in how we ended April was with this moon energy. And that moon energy , was. Where the slowness was [00:05:00] starting to happen, where we were supposed to be walking down that moonlit path instead of running. So if we think of now we're coming into May, it's almost like we started walking down the path and then you know when your eyes adjust to night.

Yes. When your eyes, when you the darkness and all of a sudden you can see or not fully, but see better. It feels like that energy coming into may. Where the slowness is allowing us to feel, to see bigger things, larger things engage in a very different way than we were engaging before.

That's a really cool visual, Michelle. Thank you. That's what I'm getting. And I haven't even looked at the cards yet, but it just hit me so we'll start there. So in that beginning, we have this Ace of cup synergy. Ace of cups is the heart, this is the feeling, cup, synergy is emotion, right? Cup synergy is intuition. [00:06:00]particularly the Ace of Cups is heart chakra at its purest form. So if we're thinking of that right away it's really tapping into a very centered place. And we are supposed to be feeling everything around us from that space, and we're trying to renew it. The whole point of the Ace of Cup being there in the beginning of this month is we're trying to fill that back up. We're trying to. Feel the purity almost of our world around us and what we connect to. So it feels like a very refreshing energy. Not surprising spring, everything is getting refreshed. But the idea that, think of yourself, right? Think of yourself in that heart chakra energy. And what it is you want to feel, how you want to feel, how you wanna connect on a much deeper level. That kind of adds to Taurus, but it also I think is just a space at this point in the year.

Okay. Yeah, I mean we're entering the second [00:07:00] quarter of the year. And I'm always gonna reference our larger picture of the year that we talked about in the tarot forecast. And I remember in this second quarter, that 10 of cup synergy was a very big, potent energy.

Okay. It was about we have to stay in that positive feeling. We have to stay in the connectivity of feeling good, and I know that sounds super simple, but feeling good actually changes our environment and changes how are perspectives so staying that way is just kinda how I think what May is really trying to encourage more than anything else is that we see the beauty in everything around us and the things that we connect to right now.

So to that energy, I'm getting this this is the early part of the year. There's two swords and the high priestess. Very. Internal energy, spiritual energy. The heart [00:08:00] chakra with the high priestess there is very intuitive. Okay? This is extremely, when I get the high priestess, that is like a very peaceful time.

Now with that two swords in the middle, it does tell me that this is a crossroads that we're really trying to stay on course. We're trying to really listen to our higher self. We're trying to really listen to what the spiritual nudges are, how they're speaking to us.

And I'm gonna reference going back to that moon energy that we ended in April, because the moon energy and the high priest is very similar. The moon energy is we just turned off the lights and now what? The high priestess is now you feel like something else is there? In that darkness, There's something that you can get from it. there's something that you can learn. There's something that you can feel. So it's almost as we're coming into May now, if we stay in that energy of listening, paying [00:09:00] attention to our environment, what's around us? Very subtly. We connect to it on a deeper level that's actually gonna keep us on the right course, then that's not going to block because the two swords.

Is a choice, Like we can say, you know what, I'm gonna speed through this thing, I just wanna get to the other side. So if I'm gonna do that, I'm not really hearing all of the subtle energies of what's around me and also what's trying to come through to me, whether it be spiritually speaking or if that's just your internal compass and your internal guidance and listening to yourself.

So think of this first part of the month to slow yourself down to the point of wanting to feel deeper instead of wanting to feel more. Ooh, I love that 

Robyn: distinction. 

Michelle: Yes. Okay. Because sometimes. Aries, right? If we're coming off that Aries energy, Aries is the more, Aries is let's go for it. Full throttle all the way. We want everything in [00:10:00] abundance and this huge burst of energy, but Taurus, and what I'm feeling, particularly in this month of Taurus is that we're supposed to now just go deeper with that. We're not supposed to stay on the surface. With that energy and kind of just keep wanting more and more.

We're supposed to be like, okay, now what do I do with the more, now I wanna understand everything at a deeper level and connect at a deeper level. And feel into it. Feel very much feel I really like that differentiation between coming off the moon and with the high priestess.

Is that now you have the opportunity to understand why you're here in this moon energy, why you're here in this kind of darkness. You have an opportunity to understand Or you can say, no, I just wanna go faster. Wow. So again, always choice. But it is. A beautiful heart chakra opening, and it's highly intuitive at the [00:11:00] beginning of the year. So in the real world sense, because Taurus love the 3D, is the people around us. The things around us are home. Our job, our tribe, our community, we want to bring them closer.

We wanna be fulfilled by it. We wanna engage with it at a deeper level, not just make it a very, like I said, surface quality. So to this its of cups. Look at that. I got the Queen of Cups. wow. This is her tool to use the cups is her tool. So she is l for us to open up this space saying, please, where I am with you right now is for you to not close your heart. Do not close your heart. Open it up more, go deeper. Open it up to the larger picture. what spiritually is being , spoken to you, and what's around you. [00:12:00] There is more.

This is about deeper understanding and deeper connection. So to that, two of swords, I'm getting this justice card. The justice is about, like I said, when we are at a crossroads here, we can, this is a choice. It's a choice to skim the surface or go deeper. And the justice card is saying part of.

The 3D world is that there are always consequences to your choices, always consequences. And to have an understanding of what those consequences are is where they want us to be, right where Spirit wants us to be. That all of our choices in the 3D have impact. And if we understand that we should take an accountability for what our choices are.

So the justice card, I think is here as a more of a reminder in this kind of standing at that crossroads saying, okay if I choose left and I just wanna skim the surface, then that's probably what I'll [00:13:00] get, I will get basic outcomes, things that I already knew. If I choose right, the part that goes deeper and opens myself up to expanding on a intuitive level, then I might get more knowledge.

I might actually grow from a place of an intuitive spiritual space, not from a place in that 3D world only. Because in that high priestess with the chariot. This is a very loud message that you are not driving anymore, You're really making the choice that this is not in your control.

That spirit is completely taking this wheel, and you are making the decision to let things play out how it's supposed to play out. The Queen of Cups knows in her core that the only thing that we can do is be along for the ride. Think of her [00:14:00] like she's on the boat, on that river and really is trusting more than anything else that river and the flow of that river is gonna get her somewhere she needs to be.

So this is. Very much a choice to not be like the fish swimming upstream and choose to be like the Queen of Cups. Just flow. Just flow right now and trust that the river, the high priestess is getting us there. 

Robyn: Yeah. And I wanna remind people. With that. This is all about life is happening for me.

Life is not happening to me. So if you can go with the flow as you're talking about, it's keeping that in mind. 

Michelle: And also I think because all this energy in the beginning of this month actually is watery, not earthy, which I was expecting what's forest.

But I think because like I said, that moon energy for me was really important how we ended [00:15:00] April and it brought us into a space of the not knowing. The unknown, everything that we can't see and touch. And so coming into this first part of May wow. Okay. A question to be, when something isn't in your control, how do you stay positive?

How do you stay optimistic? How do you stay happy? Because I think. Maybe part of the energy is, it is very 3D, Like you Robyn, like the you, the mastery of the 3D stuff, the people around you, your job, the your home, your connectivity to tribe. All of that stuff is very 3D. But I think there's a kind of asking is.

Can you combine that right? Can you combine this 3D world and be living in a human body experiencing the 3D world? And also give yourself up to [00:16:00] not having full control, To not having be able to master everything around you at all times, because that's the ebb and flow of spiritual energy. We need to learn when we are giving it up and when we are supposed to execute and take over.

And the beginning of May is about giving it up. Wow. Okay. But still saying 'cause to that Queen of Cups. I'm getting the sun card. So when I said about positivity, mindset, optimism, supposed to believe at this point, believe. That you're going somewhere down this river in the right direction and it's getting you to where you need to be.

So I think lot of times people have a really hard time when things are out of the their control or they can't really see that hindsight 2020 is in effect yet. Is. They think they have to seize control more, I guess I have to work harder, I have to, put my head down and use that kind of grit to work myself [00:17:00] through something.

And the challenge of it, that's not this energy right now . This energy is let it take you where it's supposed to go and that to a source's justice card. Also has the magician to it. So the magician is about manifestation. the magician is about, are you co-creating with spiritual energy and understanding it, listening to it, or are you wanting to force things down a path in the opposite direction of that energy or against that energy?

So I would really question yourself right now in the beginning of May, if you're listening and aligning to that ebb, if you're really listening or you're like, oh, no, I guess I better push harder, that's not what you're supposed to be doing. Because the chariot comes along with the empress, which is very much like the Queen of Cups.

Look at her heart, This heart-centered energy saying, we want you to receive. Spirit right [00:18:00] now. We want you to receive, be open. Be open to where you're heading, and just stay open. Just stay open in that vessel of learning and receiving and knowing that we are taking you in the right direction.

Oh, so it's a really, 

Robyn: I love this energy by the. 

Michelle: I mean there's, the slowness that's definitely Like the feeling and the visual I'm getting more than anything else is very much like a canoe ride down a river. It's slow, it's quiet. When you're in it, you're really observing very small things, but you're also not really that concerned about.

What's way far ahead. You're in the very present of what's happening right around you and knowing that you are moving in a direction. 

Robyn: Yeah. You're on the journey, you're in it. You're feeling it. It's not about the destination.

you're on your way somewhere. And it's trusting that you're being guided [00:19:00] to that somewhere. But enjoying that and when I say enjoying it, I think there is the enjoying it and it's trusting that whatever comes along on that journey while you're in the canoe is meant to continue to steer you.

And sometimes that might be, some kind of crazy fish that jumps out and scares the shit out of you. That's okay. There's gonna be the peaceful moments and the not so peaceful moments, but they're all guiding you in the right direction. 

Michelle: Still very highly intuitive too. Like I said, this beginning of this May is just how we started at that April, where intuition is really the guide, spirit is the guide. Things that are. Not seen. Yeah. In your world right now are really here for you helping you get down that river.

So there it is in the unseen. 

Robyn: And it feels to me when you say that, what comes to me [00:20:00] is. Make time if you can, five minutes a day or so, whether you're tuning in by meditation or you're automatic writing and journaling for five, it's take the time because this is that month. To really tune in, have that practice, and in addition to that, look for the subtle nudges.

To me, it's like the subtle nudges, the inkling to call somebody the running into somebody and it feels so out of the blue, it's not, it's those kinds of things, just being aware. 

Michelle: And with that magician card there in the middle of this two swords, like I said, that's probably the challenge in the beginning of this month is to make that choice to decide that the magician tells you If you believe something's going to come to you in the future, if you believe that you're headed in the right direction, then that's what you're drawing in, even if it doesn't physically appear in your [00:21:00] life at this moment. So it's a challenge to stay in that energy for particularly those who might not be of, earthy energy or water energy.

They're like fire signs like me or they're, air signs and they can get in their head. The idea that this is slow and that things are coming to you is the right alignment, energetically speaking. So it is the challenge there though, to stay in that vibe of high vibration optimism and mindset.

Yeah. Yeah. So let's see what's as we get into the heart of May. A little different energy. We have this five of cups and the nine of Wands and the queen of wands. So funny. Like I said, Aries energy fire, right? That we started off that month, last month with that queen of wands.

So I think part of this patience, okay, the patience that we're talking about, that's. Required now is the five of cup [00:22:00] synergy when we're in observation mode, right? when we are using all of our senses and observing the world around us in our environment, that five of cup . Some stuff that starts to come up.

Is what we are losing, What we wish we did have control over what we are regretful of or maybe any kind of losses that we have decided, I think, way back when to move through, So what I'm feeling here is when we're in that heart space of. Starting off that month of receiving everything, If you think of someone that can get overstimulated easily, right? When we're in that very triggering kind of vibe of I can feel everything there is going to be things that we don't wanna feel, or it's harder to feel and the whole point of the queen of c Is the way she's leading this month, I think, is to [00:23:00] really understand that feelings are the totality of all good and bad, All loss and gain all beauty, joy, and ugly and bad, However you want to classify that. This is I think when we start feeling things that we don't wanna feel, because that five of cups, this wheel of Fortune is telling us that the movement of this river, if we're staying with that visual, is trying to take us away from that ickiness to take us away from the ugliness, is move us in a direction that's not towards that, but away from that.

And I think with this. In the heart of the reading with this nine of wands and this five of Pentacles is the Queen of Cups is saying, spiritually speaking, she's like wanting to remind you to not stay in isolation. Do not stay in isolation just because you might be [00:24:00] feeling not great, maybe even this month or feeling a little.

Slower. Little more internal, maybe in the beginning of this month that you're not supposed to just disconnect. You're supposed to still connect with others and you can connect over things that might not even be . Feeling great right now. With the things that you're feeling bad about, you can connect over that.

'cause the Queen of Cups understands it. She's I understand all feelings. There's no one feeling that's better than the other. Joy is not better than sadness. There's not one that's better than the other. All of it has value, So I think the heart of this reading is saying that.

Spiritually speaking, how the month started is the high priestess was here to say, I hope you know that there's something else here besides you. That's what we want you to understand first, that there is a spiritual, something beyond you that you can connect to. Start there [00:25:00] then in your 3D world. Be able to say, yeah, I'm feeling like shit today, or I'm feeling like shit this month.

Maybe the world is really bringing me down right now. So now not only do I want to not just wallow in that and trust spirit to guide me through that, but also connect with others regarding that. It's okay to say you're not okay. It's okay. So I think this the middle of the month because when we're in that really open heart centered space and we can feel everything is the ugly parts of the feeling, we're supposed to be reminded to come together on instead of just close down.

Yeah, you are not alone. You're not alone. And because that queen of Wands still hanging out in this reading from the last reading, I think with the two of is she's saying she can still push forward and feel at the same time. Okay. She can [00:26:00] still move down this river with the kind of inspiration of we're getting there, Like she's the motivator. We're getting there. The Queen of Cups comes in to say, I also wanna feel it while I'm getting there. you said, Robyn, the journey, The journey is really important and tourist energy is all about that. The 3D feeling, everything. So like I said, the senses right now I think are heightened for us to understand that.

We are together, People do commiserate over. Ugly things sometimes over misery, over sadness, and that's okay. That's part of the human experience. That's part of it. So we don't wanna block that, We don't wanna not feel, because we don't wanna feel the ugly things.

Robyn: Yeah. 

and I think in all of the work that we all do. The more you can actually allow yourself to feel it, the quicker you end up coming out of it too. something that might have taken you a couple of weeks to get over might only take you a [00:27:00] couple of days.

If you continue to practice feeling into things and allowing them to move through you as you're going forward. 

Michelle: That's a very hard space because in this five of. pentacles and the night of cups is next to it. This is the heart of the reading with this nine of ones. This is the challenge in the middle of the month that I'm not feeling.

Two things, one left behind, And two disconnected completely detached and not feeling anything, almost like a level of apathy. The third thing is that I'm actually going somewhere, Because part of that nine of wands is almost a level of determination, right? And I think this is why this queen wants comes right after.

' cause she's poking her head out saying, Hey, don't worry, I'm still here. I'm still here. I'm still have the momentum, giving you the drive, the momentum to keep going. Because it's not about not feeling the Queen of Cups is we want you to feel this. I think spirit at the very top of this reading is [00:28:00] saying this is to understand that you're not alone this whole month.

I think at least it's feeling to me right now is to understand that you're not alone. 

Robyn: I love that. 

Michelle: Okay, so the end of the month. We have this six of cups oppression, which in this deck, but that's the devil card. Oof. And the four of swords. 

Robyn: Okay. That's a weird way to end the month.

Okay. Let's talk. Okay. And remember, you know me, there's no good or bad parts. 

No, they're not. So 

Michelle: please illuminate for us. Okay. Alright, so the six of cups. To me very much is the past. Okay. Sometimes, if I was in a individual reading, that would have a little bit of a different meaning, but as a collective, that's past energy.

Okay. Things, people, the history of what is past in your life, individually and on the collective at large. What is the past saying? And this is all cup synergy, right? So again, very much staying in this feeling energy of I feel this. All the senses are triggering me [00:29:00] to feel all this stuff that I maybe wasn't prepared to feel all at once in this month.

The six of cups to the, look at this, the eight of cups. This is literally walking away. This is the weird, that's crazy. 

Robyn: Michelle. 

Michelle: Literally leaving. Okay, so I'm gonna say this. for those who listened in the year is, I'm gonna remind what that theme was. The hermit at the very beginning of the year said, please get on the boat.

Because I wanna take you somewhere else, I'm making that very simple. But that was what the big theme and you were supposed to decide to get on that boat and let the hermit steer. And the hermit is spiritual energy, The hermit is something that it's not within you, that is something outside of you and the larger picture of the wisdom of that.

There has to be a point for all of this, Now what I'm feeling now in the [00:30:00] second quarter is that's why that two of swords here was there at the top of the reading with the crossroads. It was like your spirit is saying, are you still on the boat here? Are you still on the boat? Do you really wanna keep going on this boat because we are getting further and further away? From where we came from and that six of cups is very loud now saying, oh my God, that is the past. That is the past. Those people are in my past. Those feelings are in my past. That whole world and life is my history and my past.

So the eight of cups to that is wanting you to really recognize that as the goodbye. Like it's a feeling that's not just a action, actually it's not an action at all right now. It's more of a feeling. So to that, which I know we don't always like the Devil Card, but it does have its purpose. The Ace of Pentacles [00:31:00] is to the Devil Meaning that what we are trying to. Kind of reroute somewhere else. That this has become almost very constraining. when I get the devil card, it really talks to me about the stuff that's holding us back and holding onto us. We're almost in a life grip, that this is old, it doesn't serve you anymore. These people, the places the world at large, the way it was the structures of things, it's not serving. So the oppressive quality to that is almost like an understanding of that old world is over, That is not where you should be headed anymore, but to the point of the emotional experience of saying goodbye to that feels very real to me.

So I feel like what could be happening in this month particularly is I wouldn't be surprised if people are really focused [00:32:00] on very 3D thought things. Taurus energy of what they need to say goodbye to. And I'm like very real people, relationships moving homes the idea of a job or a career.

All of those things I think we're really saying an actual goodbye. So that's painful, That is painful, but it requires that separation. It really requires that. But all this May is showing me is the feelings of it. And part of the challenge in the middle of that month and why I think the devil part is showing up at the end of the month is the struggle of the trust and the belief that we are going somewhere where we're supposed to go.

So staying, like I said, staying from the beginning of this month, staying positive, believing trust, all of that is so important because that Devil Card is loud when I get the Devil Card, it's screams to want you to stay. That's what the, that's what the Devil Card [00:33:00] does. it triggers you in all the places.

A person can pull you back that a job can pull you back. So I'm gonna give you an example. It's like deciding to leave a career and saying, okay, interviewed got a great offer, and then boss comes in with an amazing counter offer. Amazing, right? All the things you wanted in the first place before you got that counter offer.

And you'd say to yourself, wow, this looks good. This is what I wanted. Why didn't they give this to me before? But that is actually devil energy because the devil energy is to remind you why you made the decisions up to that point to begin with, why you wanted the other job, why you wanted to explore, why you wanted to leave.

So I would say in that. example, the answer would be no. I do not accept that counter offer. Okay, so anything at this end of this month that really triggers, because that's what the devil does at a very deep [00:34:00] level. Something that holds you back and wants you to stay in a comfort zone is exactly what you need to say no to, 

Robyn: I love the example you used. That is so perfect. And it also very much says, if this also can help illuminate that it's fear, right? It's continuing to put you in the state of fear versus, and I know this is gonna sound, kind of simple or cheesy, but choosing love, which is the overarching theme of Taurus in general love and that open heart. So to me, in that example, and if you should be faced with something towards the end of the month, it's choosing love over fear. 

Another way to put it. However it can help get through to you. I think that's the important part, but I love that example.

That's so good. And to me it is ultimately choosing love over fear. 

Michelle: [00:35:00] Yes. For yourself and trust and faith and whatever you believe in. Doesn't matter what the lens is. Doesn't matter. Trust in faith over what in the moment. 

Robyn: Yes. That's again, these are my mantras in life are choose love over fear.

Choose faith over fear. So it's both in this. Yes. 

Michelle: I love that. But watch out. I think for anyone who's like really trying to align with this energy, because this one feels serious. To certain or very, like a lot of feelings, like triggering the end of this month is a lot. How it's feeling to me that devil car can show up very much like all the things. Think of everything in your life that you're very attached to, that particularly people, I think more than anything else that wanna hold you back, that wanna hold you in place, And they're going to trigger all of those spots in you that say. Where are you going? You don't even know. And your [00:36:00] answer is, I just know I need to keep going because to that devil card, the death card and the Ace of Pentacles, what the hell up? Holy shit people. Comfort zone is, oh my gosh.

Because another thing about Taurus is Taurus loves their comfort. So that's what very to energy. Yeah. So it's like I'm feeling more than anything. At the very end here, you get the four of swords and the 10 of cups. Remember I told you the second quarter when we did the whole read was about the 10 of cups.

Yes. Yes. At very end. Last card, three cups and the 10 of cups. It's the belief that where you're going. Is the happy place is what you want, is what's gonna be fulfilling. Almost imagine yourself this is very visual, but if you were trying to get on that boat and all these things kept pulling at you like ropes, cords, everything, trying to keep you where you are.

You're [00:37:00] trying so hard to break out of that, to get on the boat. Because your belief system is guiding you, your belief system, your intuition, the feelings are guiding you elsewhere. And you're supposed to say, no, I wanna cut all of that and move forward. That's it's a little intense.

Robyn: Wow. '

Michelle: cause that 4 of sword is healing. 

Robyn: Yeah. And I think what's so interesting too is the two of Swords that was at the top of the month in that choice. In that choice, and that to have then both the devil and the death card come up. At the end. It all ties to that choice of Your point, staying in faith. And I think what also is imprinted on me from this reading is the sun card as well. And staying in that positive belief, knowing you're gonna get triggered, you're gonna have to be really solid. In your 

Michelle: faith. And it's. Like I said, the devil , and [00:38:00] this is just a loud message, I think for anyone that's maybe in a very 3D world life situation that they're trying to break out of, Because this can manifest like that. Trying to get out of a relationship, trying to get out of a job, trying to move to a new home or environment or. All of this will feel just like that. Like every sign is pointing for you to stay because it's triggering every fear not to go. 

Robyn: And you're 

Michelle: supposed to say no.

But I believe what I believed before, which is I wanted to leave in the first place. I wanted to go forward in the first place. 

Robyn: So for anyone listening or watching , you can come right back to it so you can hear Michelle say, this is gonna happen, and remember what you wanted.

Remember the reason you needed this change, why you needed to get out of it. Remember that? That is what this message is [00:39:00] for. Keep us in the loop. We wanna know how things play out. So Michelle, thank you. 

Michelle: You're welcome. That was almost a rough ride for me. 

Robyn: I know. It was really full of everything.

And it's gonna be a month, that's for sure. Yeah. 

Michelle: Feel it all and give gratitude to all the feelings, good or bad. 

Robyn: I love that advice because we're gonna need it, and thank you for channeling all of this for us and giving us this navigation system to better utilize the energy for this month and make sense of it, and really grow from it.

Thank you, Michelle. I can't wait for. Talking about June. 

Michelle: Everyone Just stay connected to you, to your people, I think during this month too. 

Robyn: Yes. And if you are interested in hearing the whole year because you haven't, or you wanna re-listen to it, we'll have that link in our show notes.

. And if you wanna work with Michelle, you can email her at [00:40:00] m at mt nolan NOLA n.com. 

Thank you.