Beyond Mediumship: Spirit, Pleiadians & Telepathic Communication (Mich Carpenter) - Episode 241

What if you could receive guidance directly from Spirit? Or, reconnect with a loved one who's crossed over? What if you could communicate with animals, receive messages from higher consciousness, connect with Pleiadian beings, or better understand someone who communicates beyond words?

These are the kinds of experiences Spiritual Medium, Channel, Telepathic Communicator, and Energy Healing Practitioner Mich Carpenter helps people have every day.

Mich communicates with loved ones in Spirit, channels higher consciousness—including the "The Council of 8" and "Pleiadian beings"—receives intuitive guidance, and connects telepathically with non-speaking autistic individuals and their families to foster deeper understanding and connection. Through her energy healing and intuitive gifts, she helps people heal emotional, energetic, and soul-level wounds while reconnecting with their own inner wisdom.

What makes this conversation even more meaningful is that Robyn recently had a reading with Mich that was nothing short of extraordinary. Let's just say...they didn't only connect with loved ones in Spirit.

In this fascinating conversation, Mich explains how her different abilities work, what she's learned through years of communicating with Spirit, and the messages The Council of 8 and the Pleiadians believe humanity most needs to hear right now. Along the way, she also shares the deeply personal experiences that led her to discover and trust these remarkable gifts.

IN THIS EPISODE, WE COVER:

• What a spiritual medium actually does—and how mediumship works
• What it means to channel higher consciousness through the Council of Eight and the Pleiadians
• Who the Pleiadians are and why many people believe they're here to support humanity's spiritual evolution
• How telepathic communication works with non-speaking autistic individuals
• Mich's work helping families build deeper communication and connection beyond spoken language
• The role of energy healing in emotional and spiritual transformation
• How Spirit communicates with us every day—and why so many of us miss the signs
• The powerful messages The Council of 8 and the Pleiadians have for humanity right now
• How to strengthen your own intuition and connection to Spirit
• Why healing begins with reconnecting to your heart
• How Mich's own experiences with trauma, grief, loss, and healing led her to embrace her spiritual gifts
• Why your greatest challenges may actually be preparing you for your life's purpose

Whether you're curious about mediumship, channeling, telepathic communication, intuition, energy healing, or simply wondering what's possible beyond what we can see, this conversation offers an inspiring glimpse into the unseen world—and reminds us that we're far more connected than we realize.

MORE WITH MICH CARPENTER

• Here's Mich's channeling from the Pleiadians on June 11, 2026 
• Visit michcarpenter.com
• Watch Mich on YouTube

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Transcript

Robyn: [00:00:00] I'm Robyn Miller Brecker and I'm Karen Loenser. Welcome to Seeking Center, the podcast. Join us each week as we have the conversations and we, through the spiritual and holistic clutter for you, we'll boil it down to what you need to know now, we're all about total wellness, which to us needs building a healthy life.

On a physical, mental, and spiritual level, we'll talk to the trailblazers who'll introduce you to the practices, products, and experiences that may be just what you need to hear about to transform your life. If you're listening to this, it's no accident. Think of this as your seeking center and your place to seek your center.

And for the best wellness and spiritual practitioners, experts, products, experiences, and inspo, visit theseekingcenter. com. Mich Carpenter knows what it feels like to lose yourself and what it takes to find your way back.

Mich is a spiritual medium, channel, telepathic communicator, and energy healing practitioner. She helps people receive guidance from [00:01:00] Spirit, reconnect with loved ones, and heal on a soul level. She channels a collective known as the Council of Eight, and is known for helping people reconnect with joy, presence, and the wisdom of their own hearts.

Her journey to this work was born through profound personal challenges. . Mich has openly shared her experiences with childhood sexual abuse, devastating loss, divorce, grief, and years of feeling disconnected from herself.

Those experiences eventually led down a path of healing, self-discovery, and service, including working in hospice where her understanding of life, death, and the soul deepened in extraordinary ways. what makes our conversation even more meaningful is that Mich recently gave me a reading that was nothing short of remarkable.

Let's just say we didn't just connect with my deceased loved ones. Today we're talking about how trauma became transformation, how Mich learned to trust her abilities, [00:02:00] and what it means to channel higher consciousness, and what Spirit wants all of us to know about healing, purpose, and why we're really here.

Let's get going. Hi, Mich. Hi, Karen. 

Mich: Hi, 

Robyn: Robyn. 

Mich: Hi, Mich. 

Robyn: Hi. All the way in New Zealand by the way. 

Mich: Thank you 

Karen: for having me. So honored to have you here. Karen, Robyn has been talking so much about the reading that you had, and , in the, intro that Robyn just read, I'm going, " Oh my gosh, this woman can do so many different things."

It's like an abundance of healing opportunities, I guess, that we can learn from you. But you've also... It sounds like you've had quite a journey as well, so it's almost been like an exchange in life experience for all of these abilities that you have. Can you start us off maybe at the beginning of this path and when those modalities really came to you at a, turning point in your life? 

Mich: First of all, thank you for having me. I feel so honored to be here with both of you.

And I just feel so comfortable and [00:03:00] easy. And the journey has been a backwards and forwards journey. It really has been such a tough journey, And the pivotal point of my turnaround was when I was 32, 33 years old and my ex-husband, I'd found out he was having an affair. But it took, like, a year and a half, and my mom kept saying... she knew the signs because my dad had an affair. My, my grandfather had an affair, so there was the pattern in our family ancestors, which again, I didn't even know at the time.

I was just angry, just really, really angry, like, " How dare he do this?" But there was a pattern in my life that men left. 

. So a friend suggested go see a clairvoyant. I went to go see this young man, and the one thing that stuck out, I cannot remember the rest of the reading 'cause I wanted to go for help for my anger at men, and he just said to me, "You don't know how to love yourself." And I just remember thinking I actually have no idea what you've just said.

Like, where do you [00:04:00] even start with that? , But there was such an alignment there because the beauty of even meeting up with this young gentleman, his mother was working for hospice at the time. Now, to go back a little bit, when I was 16 and a half, 17, one of my best friends died. she had a kidney transplant, and I knew she was always sickly, but she was a South African ballroom and Latin American champion.

So We did ballet together, modern together. But I remember sitting in hospice with her little body. She was very tiny, very petite, and I remember watching her mom and dad come from a counseling session. And as a young kid, I remember looking up and going, "How is that counselor not falling apart?

She's surrounded by death." It was just such a pivotal moment that I remember looking and going, "This doesn't make sense to me." . when I go back to my childhood, I was the child that always was just blurting things out, and people would say, "How do you know that?"

But I was taught to shut up.

So I wasn't somebody... When I watch other mediums, they go, "When I was four [00:05:00] years old, I remember this and this and this." I don't remember that ever happening, but I do believe inside of us that we all have the ability. And I think that sometimes we can be caught up, myself included, in the labels of how do you label yourself when we have such a, wisdom that's inside of us- 

Totally ... that we can all connect into. And fast-forward through my divorce, because then I started counseling skills, started working part-time, in hospice. . And my counseling, , the universe just presented my first few clients. They were all sexually abused, which I was sexually abused at the age of five.

So for me, there's always a part of myself that I'm talking to. 

There's always a part that, mirror reflection, which is the very thing that I shied away from ' I think a lot of people kind of go, "Oh my God, you're so connected." I'm like, "No." It's come with a lot of disconnection as you shared, Robyn.

As you read about me, it's like I was. I was so [00:06:00] disassociated. I was so deeply in my own trauma I feel it's important to share that don't have all of my knowings.

I just don't, I'm here to experience being human, and I still can get triggered. I still can get very anxious. I get nervous. And I feel it's so important to share this 'cause there's very much a... I've noticed in the last four or five years, especially since 2020, that, you know, people have accelerated in their awakening and their spirituality.

But pfoof, some of the most judgmental groups that I've been in are spiritual people. Yes. Myself included. 

Robyn: Yeah, no, we so agree with that. And going back to what you said when the counselor or therapist looked at you and said, "You have to love yourself." What did you do then?

Where did that- Beginning to love yourself and that process, how did that start? Because I do think that connects into what you're doing now. 

Mich: It's just been a complete [00:07:00] learning for me, , think where it actually started was the weekend I went away. This youngster said to me, " My mom runs hospice.

Why don't you go on this weekend retreat?" That weekend, I think, was the first weekend where I decided to put myself first, not knowing what was coming. But trusting, because for me, self-love is trusting what our journey's about. 

Robyn: Yes. 

Mich: That is the big one

That weekend was the first weekend I can remember truly feeling held, supported. 

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Mich: And I'd gone to work with my divorce and work with my anger, but the facilitator that I had was nothing short of brilliant and one of my biggest teachers. And unbeknown to me, she'd walked a very similar journey. So it was just, you see how incredibly intelligent the universe is.

but she was one of my hardest, brutal teachers, where she just got me to face me all the [00:08:00] time, and she never tolerated any BS. .. She just got me aligned all the time, and it was scary.

I cried so hard that my head felt like it was splitting open 'cause I was so unsure of why she kept asking me how I was feeling about that time.

I'm like, "I don't understand. I don't understand. I don't... Help me with my anger." But underneath anger lies such deep sadness, which is why I'm so called to help with people who are grieving. 'Cause grieving is most certainly part of our huge change. our heart just stores, and if you just think of it as a, the pump that it is and how it just, it magnifies so much.

 It just stores so much, and then we talk about... I don't even think we can express how much we protect our hearts, the biggest thing I found is to learn forgiveness.

Karen: How did you get past that then once you finally had that moment with... that retreat that you were on How did you move forward from [00:09:00] there?

Mich: . Yes. So I deep dived. So the counseling skills was perfect because it was a 14-week journey, 14-week course, and I was going through my divorce at the time, so it really helped me, again, with the support of the group.

And then I started to study neurolinguistic programming, and once again, there was support. Then I did my yoga teacher training, and I started to realize that I was actually picking up on a lot of people's energy. Even in and I don't know if I shared this with you, Robyn, but when I was studying neurolinguistic programming, the coach didn't know what to do with me.

I was just crying, and I didn't know I was an empath. These words weren't loosely shared if you're a '70s kid. You know? You, again, you just get on with life. But I think growing up initially Zimbabwe, then South Africa, the one thing I've learnt is that we have resilience.

Not only as a South African, but as humans, we have [00:10:00] resilience. And if we can just know that every single moment that we allow ourselves to either talk it out, we allow ourselves to cry, I truly believe that a big part of, my healing has been to just allow my cellular body to just I think that's the best way to say it, because every single cell, we're a body of water, but the mind just comes to just trick us all the time. And I'm a deep feeler, and that's part of my journey, is to not apologize for my tears, .

And my dad always used to say to me, "You're so sensitive," as a teenager. "You're so sensitive, and what do you do with that? What do you do?" And then I would bring men into my space that would say the same thing, including my second husband, "Why do you always cry?" And I'm like that's... Really, like, what does that actually mean?"

Right. 

So for me, very okay to allow the vulnerability But it took a while on my [00:11:00] own walk of my own journey to, , not blame everybody, '

I've truly just deep dived into, how do I feel? But not overanalyzing, ' cause that was another part of it, and I can laugh about it today because I think that that's what happens. I've noticed this with a lot of people who, start to evolve very quickly. There can be addictions- 

that start to even, on our spiritual journey.

I had to learn that life's not so deep. Right. Life's not so serious on the spiritual journey. 

So does that answer your question,

Robyn: yeah. Well, and so then you, you were working within the hospice world, and really I would imagine becoming even more comfortable with death. And so what happened in that experience that then led you to do the work you're doing now, which is the mediumship reading, which is channeling energy healing?

How did that all, it feels to me, [00:12:00] came from this whole process, right? This whole transformation. 

Mich: Yes. So part of me letting go of my own trauma and the heaviness of what I was carrying and storing and holding, and the release of what I would call golden tears, was where I started to... The best way to describe is let go of this heavy coat.

And when I took off the heavy coat and the heavy armor that was my protection mechanism, I started to see things when I was counseling. And I didn't know that I was a medium or a psychic. I had no idea. But again, there was just things, even in yoga. You know, after a yoga class, I would say to somebody, "Oh, so-and-so is here with you right now."

And then I had to learn to ask permission, because to put somebody on the spot was quite a big deal. You know, 'cause people are kind of, "How do you know this information?" And it's just been an evolving. When I was living in South Africa before we emigrated to New Zealand, which we've been here for 10 years now, my teacher that I was talking [00:13:00] about, she would teach me a lot on the board and, you know, we used to do, hold workshops together.

But I'd always hear these other voices and I'd, be watching her and then go, "Oh, no, I think I'm going mad. Like, what am I listening to?" And unbeknownst to me, it was really the Council of Eight that was talking to me,

and it was just weird because they would just be sharing things and then I'd... It was kind of like this rock, and then we came to New Zealand and I actually fell to pieces. Like after doing nine years of emotional work, working through my trauma, coming to this deep sense of aloneness.

but I got up every day, looked after my kids, and not knowing that the place that we immigrated to, which is called Queenstown, we were in these huge mountains, and I didn't realize that mountains hold so much energy. You know, in Johannesburg you're on a vibe. you're in fight or flight all the time, which is exciting, it's exhilarating and you're looking over your shoulder and again, didn't know that my husband and I had PTSD.

So [00:14:00] I came to New Zealand and I started thinking, "Okay, how do I start?

What's safe?" My counseling was safe. So I started putting the word out there, started to get involved in different communities and then I started meditating again and just going for walks. And slowly but surely in sessions, I started hearing these different voices again. And you truly, for me I, I was like, "Am I going mad?"

Robyn: Yeah. I mean, I bet you did.

Karen: did it actually sound like real voices in the sense that you almost couldn't distinguish between what was real and not? Or were they just perceived almost like in your subconscious voices? I'd just love to hear like how it sounded to you.

Mich: That's a great question. They just sounded so calm, so easy. The way they started to bring things through was just different. That's the only way I can describe it. But what was so interesting was I would quiver. My body would become so cold and I would just, my hands would become so cold and I didn't know [00:15:00] how to I didn't know how to allow this energy to arrive.

I think that's probably the best way to describe it. Like, I would hear them, but again, it's almost like you go, "No, this can't be true. This is not real." And this is before, - everything started to kind of just really shoot out in 2020. Like, I didn't know channeling was a thing. I just didn't know what to label myself, because I could definitely speak to Spirit. I knew that. And one of my very first experiences was having a woman who I was counseling in South Africa, and I saw her little baby girl, and I didn't know she had a stillborn. And I described her little baby girl to the T, and she looked at me with...

 She'd been a client of mine probably for four, five months. She never once told me that she had had a stillborn. I described the dress that this little baby was wearing. I described her eyes, her hair. So that was how I kind of started to know that I could connect with Spirit, loved ones who had passed over.

But again, the Council of Eight was just different. It was [00:16:00] just this... I didn't think anything of it other than this is different. And then they started to share with me in meditation, " You need to start using your sessions. You need to start singing. You need to start opening up your throat chakra."

And they started saying to me- With a Council of Eight. I said, "Okay, what does that even mean? Who are you?" "We're angelic beings of light, ascended masters who've once walked the earth planes." And every single time I would ask them, it would be exactly the same way that they would share it with me. And I've never been able to see them.

I've been able to feel them, and I've been able to... I just felt this expansion in my heart. And through the singing, what was so miraculous for me with them getting to open up my throat is they started bringing through different frequencies, different... not what we would perhaps call light language. It was different tonings, different tunings, where it was very angelic.

Mm. like almost [00:17:00] operatic. Is that the right word? So this was a process. And then I watched Sheila Gillette, who channels Theo. Mm. And she said that she had to work with her nervous system. And again, my experience was like, oh my God, if only just somebody had told me, magnesium would've been my best friend.

It wasn't like that for me. It was just different, and I think we all learn differently. But what I love about what they share is that they share truthfully and they share in joy, and they share that There's no fear. The fear is what we've been taught. 

and that's been my learning with the Council of Eight, is that they are funny and they laugh at us as humans, which people don't like.

Karen: They're like, "

Mich: How can these angels... Why aren't they serious?" You know? And I'm like who said angels have to be serious?"

So it's just been a wonderful journey of personal letting go, letting go of my belief [00:18:00] systems because I come from, a background of being a reborn Christian. And Robyn, I think I might have shared this with you, is that, talking in tongues in church was very similar to light language in my experience.

Robyn: definitely. Yeah. Well, and I think- What you have done, and I know you are so honest in that this is all such a journey and you're still learning. As Karen and I say, so are... We all are, right? Like, we're on the journey, and thankfully now we're on the journey together. But you are learning all of these different modalities as you go along, and you're open and accepting, right?

So thankfully, you, you were open to receiving the Council of Eight. You've been open to being able to talk to our deceased loved ones. You also, though, have learned energy healing so that you can help facilitate that for others and combine that with all the things that you're doing. Like, you're just so versed in all of these [00:19:00] different ways to help us heal, I believe, including yourself.

Mich: Yes. Well, it is, it has been about me. Because the more that... And I don't say that with, with wanting to be egotistical, but it's, the more I've let go, the more I've learned that, wow, you know, just these moments of what we would term clarity, a moment of saying, "Wow, I'm so grateful for this experience," but I had to let go of my humanness.

And I'm human, I know that. Not realizing that we are light that come in, that we're these beautiful, incredible lights. But my journey of being human has just been different. And that's what I know as a truth, is that our souls know. Our blueprints of the essence of who we are knows what we come in with.

And the learning has been, and this is what I love to teach if I can and the more open people are, the more [00:20:00] easier it is for the messages to come through and the way we hear them, the way we interpret them because we all learn differently. 

And in energy healing, we all, we just rub our hands together and we can feel it.

It it's that simple. Exactly. 

Robyn: I, 

Mich: that's how it's simple. I love to bring simpleness, you know? And that's what the Council of Eight bring. And sorry, I get so excited, ah, because, it's how can we teach simply? How can we teach that we sitting here, how miraculous is it that somebody brought a Zoom together

there's so much to learning. . I just feel like it's such a miraculous time to be alive.

And when we look at just the gratitude of what life gives us- We can all do it, but we're all different and this is what the telepathic children have taught me. You know, the non-verbal autistic community, they only see us. They will never, ever, ever, ever bring anybody down. They just see us in love.

They see us in openness. They see us in the truth of who we [00:21:00] truly are. And, it can be very overwhelming, though. 

Robyn: Just to be seen that way? 

Mich: Yes. 

Robyn: Can you, 

Karen: can you just talk just a moment more about the telepathic community that you work with and how you came to be doing that so- 

Robyn: And what does that mean? You know, what does that mean? What does it mean to be a communicator for them? 

Mich: So I'm a voice for them and, the best way I describe it is the old radios that we used to have in our cars or, you know, our, perhaps our parents or grandparents have the little receivers with the aerial.

And we all tune in to a certain frequency. So how it started to happen was a very good... Well, she, she was a client initially and she saw me on a podcast and I was speaking about my background and she realized that she had trauma. There were similarities in our stories and the abuse and just alcoholic parents, and she reached out to me and I didn't know at the time that she'd got five children and, her last two [00:22:00] children Cody and Aaron Cody's Down syndrome and Aaron is non-speaking autistic.

And she started spelling with him and she had no idea how brilliant Cody is in spelling. He was telling her how they see spirit. He was telling her via spelling. And what actually happened was I had a client the one night and I heard Cody's name coming up. So I said goodbye to my client and I sent her a voice message, and this is over the last three and a half, four years that we've developed a relationship and developed a friendship.

She lives in the UK. And I said to her, "I think Cody's connecting with me." And she's like, "What?" I said, "Yeah, I just hear Cody's voice." And she's like, "Oh, what does he say?" And it's been interesting because the things that they've shared with me has been so on point because once again, I never know until there's confirmation.

 So he would share things with me and then she'd say, " Oh my God, I didn't realize he knew that." It was kind of like I have an eye. The best way to, you know, like you're a submarine and you [00:23:00] have a telescope and you just, boom, there you are. And it's, that's how our energy's so intertwined. 

Wow. 

So, the working with the children has been another level for me in terms of my bandwidth and the downloads or the receiving of what I get 'cause I'm exhausted afterwards 'cause they are just another level.

And they've almost taught me to once again just receive. 'Cause sometimes I'll be sitting in meditation or I'm sitting just looking out the window and then I'll hear one of their voices and then I sit and I go quiet. And then I started giving voice messages. And Monique and her boys were actually homeless because the system in the UK wasn't looking after them.

And I put a GoFundMe out and I just thought, "Okay, I've just gotta be thick-skinned. Let's just do this." And what was happening is they were giving her or me the guidance to guide them as to where to go. The one time I said to her, "You're going down south." And she's like, we're going in a different [00:24:00] direction."

I don't know w- exactly where she was going. And the next minute, her journey completely changed and she was going down south in the UK, and she's like, "Oh my God." So they, they sense things and see things before we even know it's happening. 

 And it really and truly has been a crazy journey of chaos where cause for mothers especially, not knowing that their kids can communicate is hugely shocking to them.

But what I have absolutely loved is how they teach about vibration and resonance. Mm. And they teach that, going back to the mirror and everything is a mirror without a doubt. . And this is what the telepathic children have been teaching us, that the parents need to work with their nervous systems. The parents need to work with themselves because they are just reflecting what they receive. So Monique's youngest, who's very truthful, [00:25:00] will say to her, "You need to go for a walk 'cause I'm picking up..."

And he will they have, dyspraxia. I don't know if you've heard about dyspraxia. 

Robyn: No. What is that? 

Mich: So it's where they just release. So Aaron, the youngest, has OCD tendencies, but where they release, where they just poo. 

Robyn: Okay. 

Mich: so she's got them in nappies and, their bodies just release.

And she's got video footage of where she says, "Oh, everybody thinks this is love and light." Like, you know, the telepathy tapes woke everybody up and she's like, "But look what I have to deal with on a day-to-day basis." So do you see the, sometimes the distortion that things can create? Which is beautiful in one way, but we're still here to live the experience of being human.

Robyn: That's right. 

Mich: And that's where, you know, the telepathy tape's amazing. It just brought this awareness and this consciousness to like, whoa, there's more. But what does that even mean? You know, even me trying to describe the Council of Eight, what does it even mean? I wanna be a good human [00:26:00] being.

I wanna be a, compassionate, kind human being who can share openly and allow my vulnerability. Because I don't walk around and go, "I'm a channel."

We still have to learn 

how to fit into the world and be- Yes ... in this world. 

Robyn: That's right. 

Mich: And this is what these beautiful humans, these children, I believe, have come into the world quicker to wake us up.

Mm. to know that there is more and to know that love is truly, truly who we are. 

Yet it's a relearning in terms of, okay, what does that mean? 

What does it mean to truly love? 

Robyn: what a gift that you can help translate. for both these living humans who aren't able to speak in the way that we're so familiar with, as well as translate for our deceased loved ones, or translate for these [00:27:00] light beings of all kinds, 'cause we're gonna talk about some more light beings in a second.

But the point is that like what a gift, that your journey has brought you to that understanding and to that fullness of yourself in being a channel for all really, And so We're so grateful, and I know I'm so grateful. I was able to experience all these different elements from you recently, Thank you

because I had a- Can we 

Karen: talk about that? I'm dying 

Robyn: to. Yes, please. Let... I would love to talk about it. I wanna start it out by saying that, I didn't even know what to expect from Mi I knew she was so highly regarded, so highly recommended by another good friend of all of ours, Nina.

and we trust her so much. and Mich and I had already met. we knew on a soul level we're supposed to know each other.

And so I show up on this Zoom, and Mich is [00:28:00] wearing her hair in a specific way, and this color that is not like a typical color that I think most of us see. It was like a specific type of bluish purple. And I was taken aback by it, and she hadn't even said anything yet, and I was taken aback by it. And then- Mich told me she was told to wear that color and her hair that way.

Wow ... because My mom was already coming through to her, and for those of you that listen to this podcast, and for those of you that don't, my mom passed away very recently. she passed away on May 8th, and we had more of a formal ceremony for her on May 28th, and this is in 2026. and here we're taping this on June 22nd, so it's really recent for me.

And I really wasn't expecting that at all. and for you to open it up and say, "So your mom is telling me what to wear, told her [00:29:00] the jewelry to wear, told Mich to wear that color and her hair in a specific way," and the way that Mich was wearing it is the way that she always wanted me to wear my hair.

So- 

that just starting off that way was bonkers- Wow ... 'cause no one would know that. I mean, and that's what I also wanna say about these experiences, and with the people that we bring on this podcast, and why we're so fortunate. And we only share people we trust, and my goodness, like, that was just, holy crap. Wow. Total validation there. It was. It was total validation. And- So 

Karen: how did... Talk us through then, Robyn and Mich, like, how did the reading unfold? 

Robyn: I think we'll both talk, but I think what I was so taken by, and again, this is why Karen and I do what we do.

We wanna share these experiences. we both are channels. Karen and I can channel in a different way than, let's say, Mich can channel, everybody does this somewhat differently, and that's why it's so important [00:30:00] for us to have these experiences, so we can tell you all, and hopefully open you up to receive these kinds of experiences, 'cause they really can be transformative in your life.

And for me, I think what I was taken by was, number one, the specificity that came through Mich with my mom, with my dad, who then came through with different relatives for my husband, Jeff, I have to tell you, Mich, there was one part...

where a cousin of Jeff's came through that, he was close with, and there was this phrase that kept coming up from him. He kept saying that he was this, that he was a failure, and it didn't register for me, because I knew him in life, and he was not what any of us would consider a failure.

And he had some really unbelievable guidance for Jeff. And so after the whole experience, I went and talked to my husband, Jeff, about it, and I told him, he kept saying this phrase and it didn't make sense to me. I was trying to come up with reasons why he would say it, and none of them [00:31:00] felt right, And Jeff told me that was something his cousin said to him all the time, because that's how he viewed himself. And so I just want you to know, like, it's those kinds of, , things that you would never know, that I didn't even know, but Jeff knew, yeah. And I wanna share that, when Mich was bringing all this together, for me, she was able to also connect with music, and there was a specific song that my m- mom asked Mich to play, and it wasn't a song that my mom and I shared in this lifetime, it's actually a p- a newer song. I had known the song, have listened to it, but never really listened to the words, and the words were so relevant to what my mom was trying to To express to me in what she felt she wanted to apologize for in terms of our relationship in this lifetime.

And it was deeply healing. Now I can listen to that song and every time [00:32:00] connect in a different way, and connect with my mom in a way that is really beautiful. So there was so much healing that was happening during that. Mich was also able to see where I was hold ... because Mich is also an energy healer.

Within the experience she was able to see where I was holding different grief, anger, all of it inside me. She was able to connect with the little Robyn inside of myself. I mean, this is all within the experience. Wow. Wow. it was so powerful. I'm still unpacking it all. It was extremely transformative in the, I would say, beginning of what I believe is a healing process and a next chapter for me as I really as I really begin this, the real grieving process for my mom and really for not having parents on this planet, i'm very much someone who does connect with the other side, but it doesn't take away from the human element of all of it, which is deep, [00:33:00] And then the kicker, you guys, is that at the end, the Pleiadians came through and ... All right. 

Karen: Explain the Pleiadians. 

Robyn: I'm gonna ask Mich first to explain the Pleiadians. I knew the Pleiadians prior to us meeting because I have, I've been told before that I have some sort of connection with them.

Which again, Mich did not know. She just said to me, I think we're gonna bring the Pleiadians through." Okay. Can you explain what are the Pleiadians, and then we can talk about what they said? 

Mich: Oh, gosh. I'm still learning, to be honest, who the Pleiadians are and but basically what happened was I was mentoring a client and we were in meditation, and my go-to has always been the Council of Eight.

And I got shown, I don't know timelines, but probably about a year to two years ago, I got shown that you will start to channel the Pleiadians. I was like, "Oh, okay. I don't know what that means. I, have no idea." Okay." Like, "Are you part of the Council of Eight?" This is how I [00:34:00] negotiate with them. I'm like, "Just tell me."

and then I went to Egypt last year and I started receiving very different messages. So the Council of Eight come through very jovial, light-hearted. You can ask them questions. they'll bring up your Akashic records. They, will share things in your blueprint, they don't talk about past lives, they talk about past timelines because you know we're a simulation. We're a holograph. Mm-hmm. The Pleiadians with this client, we were in meditation, and the next minute my whole head turned and I was like, woof, and then I just heard Pleiadians. And their frequency is very different.

It's very, Clients of mine have said, um, like, they have to go to the bathroom afterwards 'cause they just feel it in their solar plexus, either their heart or their solar plexus, and it's a very different... It's just this continuation. It's short from what I remember. 

Robyn: Yes. 

Mich: But it's this continuation of them just sharing stuff that might not make sense at all.

But what was interesting, I came back and I opened my eyes and the screen was black, and I thought, oh my [00:35:00] gosh." And I phoned my client, and she's in Florida, and she said to me, "Mich-" My whole electricity went out. Everything just went fff. And I went, "What?" I thought she'd fallen off her chair or something And their frequency is very, very different.

And,

The way they come through is very specific. It's very direct to a certain degree. This has just been probably in the last, seven, eight months that the Pleiadians have been coming through.

Robyn: Yeah. And so- And they are representative of a star seed. So if, you hear that term star seed, they are a star family. That's where I would, just to start with in terms of light beings. Yeah. And what you said is so true. There's a different frequency that was coming through you, both from when you were talking and translating for, let's say, my mom and my dad or Jeff's family.

And then I've also, you all can listen to and watch Mich [00:36:00] channel on her YouTube channel, but you can see the difference, like the Council of Eight, the way that they come through to you, very different than when you are channeling the Pleiadians. There's just a different tone that I would, that I would say.

And then what I found even more fascinating, and I just want... I'll share very quickly some of the themes that came up, 'cause they were for everyone. They weren't just for me. There was one specific thing they said to me, which I can share at the end, but it was really for everybody listening- Yeah ... which is why I'm so grateful we get to share that here.

But then you also were speaking in what what I would say is light language. Mm-hmm. There was a whole period so that if you... And, we can clip this and we'll put it up and you can see you're speaking, but then all of a sudden you go into what I have seen as light language, and it's a frequency and you can feel it.

Mm-hmm. You can really feel it. And then they came back through you [00:37:00] with, again, some more messages, 

Mich: Wow ... 

Robyn: fascinating and so different, Yeah ... than the other part of my experience with you. And what they wanted everybody to know was that earth knows, earth transforms.

They said that several times. They said that our souls are not meant to be changed, that humans- Continue to wanna change their souls. But we are already light. We are already knowing. We already have our each unique imprint. So that we're not meant to change our soul which I thought was key. That they talked about the frequency and that everything is frequency, the birds, storms, light language, everything.

We, the body, is frequency. They talked about the feminine bringing change. Hmm. and that that transformation is underway on Earth. they did thank me specifically for doing this [00:38:00] work and helping bringing this more to the world, and they used the word, "May Grace follow you wherever you go."

And Grace is my mother's name 

Mich: Oh. Oh, sure 

Robyn: And you said that too without knowing it. Earlier you had said that in my reading. Again, you didn't know my mom's name was Grace. It was just so cool. And then they said, "Peace be with you. Peace be with you. Peace be with you." They said that several times. Mm.

And It stayed with me. I've, I've actually shown it to my family. I'm like, "Everybody needs to experience this." and know that I think the other part for all of this is we're not alone, you know? 

Karen: I was... Yeah, Robyn, I was just thinking that. Like, the beauty of this kind of a, of a reading reminds us, I think we can get so caught up in our own 3D experience.

So of course, it's lovely to hear from Mom who's crossed and get the affirmation that she's there. But to get these other messages that sort of remind us all that we're not only not alone, but like there are [00:39:00] so many other entities out there that can help us and guide us that have been there and that continue to guide the planet and infuse the planet with energy as well.

It's such a unifier. We, we were talking earlier, Robyn and I, about how that is so needed now, and how amazing is it that what you're doing, where years ago was like, "Oh, woo, that's so weird. It's too weird for me," is now- Yeah ... really becoming a force of healing and unity and bringing us all together and reminding us of how vast this universe is.

Yeah ... and how important we are. We, each one of us. The Pleiadians came and visited Robyn, right? I Like, holy, holy moly.

Mich: What an important person. Everyday conversation, hey? 

Karen: No. That does not, that doesn't happen every day. it's... And I laugh about it, but in a way it- it's probably kind of the sense of humor you keep talking about, they must have... Like, they must wish so much that we did have the vantage point so that we could lighten up [00:40:00] literally and figuratively- Yes ... more about our experience. and know that, all is well and that we are, are supported in that sense. Yeah, yeah. What a beautiful gift you give 

Mich: wonderful. Oh, thank you. And I, I truly thank you and I...

It's beautiful to hear back again, you know, when, when you're speaking, Robyn, and going wow." Yeah. But I always say, if I can do it, like this little person who grew up in a mining town who had freaking not the best math, and I'm still learning to reel it in with no filter. But I just think that's part of who we truly are. If you watch children It's children just are truth speakers.

They tell you like it is, and I think that that's part of the role that these beings want us to start to navigate again. and I it's just, again, an, an incredible time to be alive. You know? There is so much information out there, but it... If I can do this, anybody can do this. You know? And it, it comes.

I mean, [00:41:00] Yes, I've had readings myself where, you know, people have confirmed things or I'm not too sure what's gonna be shared and but I take it just go, "Oh, okay," because we're all light. Yeah. I just go, "Oh, I still have my very human real experiences where," it's important that, again, that I share that because there's imperfection in our perfection.

Yeah. Because I am not perfect. I

am... , in spirituality there's this- following of people that are thinking that... Somebody said to me when I was sick recently, this is perhaps an example, "Oh, Mich, people like you, I didn't realize you get sick." And I'm like, "What do you even mean?" Of course I get sick.

Yeah. You know? But I wanna take that stigma and just tear it up like a contract and just say, "No, guys." 

If I can do this, we can all do this. 

Robyn: That's right. 

Mich: I mean, may I ask, were you channeling recently, , when did you both start to channel? I'd love to know. 

Robyn: Yeah. For [00:42:00] me, this journey has started in 2019, I would say, in terms of really understanding that we each have the power.

So now, that's what? Seven years ago. I didn't understand that we each could do it. I think I gave that power away to other people. But now what I'm learning is that we all do it, and we all do it differently, and we all have such a unique translation of things that are all important.

What about you, Karen? 

Karen: Well, I was gonna say, I think for me, it started probably even before that, maybe 2013, because I was seeking, and I was looking for answers and not finding them. And for me, it all started in the meditation and the downloads that I was getting from in meditation. And then not reading any of that stuff until the end of the day, and I would come back to it, and I was like, " where is this coming from?

Where is this wisdom? It can't possibly be from me, 'cause I'm lost." I need answers. And here it all is in this journal. I'm like... it... And the word download is such [00:43:00] a good word, because it does feel like it's coming through you from somewhere else. And that wisdom, I think, was really the thing that gave me the confidence to start my seeking journey and really tune in more.

I think I'd never... Like you, I grew up very, in a very kind of similar household we were Catholic, and we were just kind of told what to do and think and be, So I, think that's kind of when it started for me, and I find even when I go for a run in the morning, That's when I'm open. When I actually open up that channel to just have nothing in my mind at all, that's when the wisdom and the inspiration and just, the joy, too, comes through. It's like you allow everything else to be pushed aside, and allow just that download of, light, like you were saying before, to be there, so.

And you're right. Everyone can do it. I would say to you, though- that you are an example of someone who, as Robyn said at the very beginning, took the trauma and transformed it- Yes ... [00:44:00] into something beautiful to give back to the world. And it's like people can't see you right now the way we can, but you have these hearts behind you, these beautiful hearts, and it's, not easy.

It takes courage to do what you do, and to allow yourself to be that channel for others. It's one thing to keep it quiet to yourself, but to really go out there and really do the work that you gave to just Robyn in, in one example. she's had a lot of readings, and they've all been a- amazing, but, but the diversity of what you've been able to give her, as we were saying before, on just, you know, her mom and the people that her soul guides in life, but then bringing out this much more huge realization for her of what's out there and what's supporting her.

 That's an incredible gift. It 

Robyn: Yeah. Thank 

Really. And the fact is that you are doing that for so many people, and even when you talk about being a telepathic communicator for those that are living but they can't use their words, what a gift you are giving both [00:45:00] them and their families so that they can better- live in this body that they're given on this earth so that you can also help those that are caregiving for them understand what they're here to learn too.

I mean, it just helps... All of it is leveling up this lifetime for us by, by the work that you're doing. And really also saying, giving us the knowing that we can all do this. Like, that's what we wanna continue to shout to the rooftops that if you're listening to this and any of it feels like it connects with you, number one, you know, go have an experience with Mich, but also start to really just pay attention to what's coming to you.

Like, what is your intuition? What are the synchronicities that are showing up in your life? that's what We have these conversations, we created Seeking Center so that we can all explore together, because there's a reason you're drawn to even listening right now or watching right now.

[00:46:00] there is no coincidence. This is, could be, like, one of the breadcrumbs,

Mich: yes. 

Robyn: Something much bigger. And like, go look up, the Pleiadians, you know? Like, all the things, the Council of Eight. Go watch a video of Mich's where she's channeled them. You know, you can experience them live with her.

She has different ways for you to experience, whether that's one on one, whether that's in a group. They're all just opportunities to see something bigger than yourself. Start the exploration that, we're in this together 

Mich: I love that, and it's something that I've, I've shared myself exactly in those words.

We're all in this together. 

Robyn: Oh, 

Mich: we 

Robyn: are. 

Mich: And you also said something which was so profound because everybody's individual, and that's what the telepathic children have shared with me and others. I'm not science or math based, so, w- if this... Like, Cody's very science based, but I don't get the equations or whatever.

So, I've said to his mom, [00:47:00] "Find somebody who's science based," or... And we've just literally landed a guy who's a tech- like I say, landed a guy. But it's incredible. It's incredible how they just bring these human beings in, and this guy's science based and such a beautiful man with such a kind, soft heart.

He was blown away with what the boys knew. And and I've communicated for many others as well and, it's just such a privilege. But at the same time, it can be a huge amount of responsibility. 

Robyn: Yeah. Yeah. 

Mich: You know- Yeah ... especially when the mothers are asking you about supplements or do they do this or do they do that?

Yeah. And you're just like, for me, it's like giving the mothers back to themselves and saying, "You're the mother. You gave birth to these children. It's not about me. I can teach you muscle testing. I can teach you body testing. I can teach you with a pendulum. But what are you getting? Tap into your intuition."

Robyn: That's 

Mich: right. And that, that's what you shared earlier on, Robyn, and that's the thing. We all are unique. I say we don't need more Michelles or Miches in the world. We've got one. Like, I'm freaking [00:48:00] mad as a hatter at times, you know? So it's... Then you live with me and you'd be like, "Oh my God." But you're a Robyn. You're a Karen. And that's what I love is that how do we teach people their individual connections?

Because there are millions of, beings out there. There's no doubt. I mean- No doubt. Exactly ... they're just kind of hanging out and going, "Okay, come on. We're waiting." So nice. Yeah, 

Karen: and thank God you've got that little radio dial frequency like you said, we all do and it's just a good reminder.

 I just love we're finishing this conversation with such a big smile. Like, it's just feel like it's been love and light the whole way through. 

Robyn: uh, this time has just flown. , I have a feeling we'll be talking to Mich many more times because there's so much to continue to discuss and share with each other and with all of you.

And so we could not recommend more to go reach out to Mich. Check out what she has going on at [00:49:00] michcarpenter.com. That's M-I-C-H-C-A-R-P-E-N-T-E-T-E-R.com. . we'll have links in the show notes. You can also check out what she has going on on YouTube, and, um, more to come.

Mich: Love it. Thank you so much. Love it. And, if I may just share that the readings that I give are very truth-based. .. That's been something that I've completely just opened up to where it's like, what does the person sitting in front of me need to hear to heal? 

 and that's why I love hearing what you shared Robyn because, you know, I forget, but sometimes we don't understand or we interpret just what we're trying to interpret in the readings until we look back or we listen back, and that's why I love to record them because I highly recommend, like, listen back because you'll get something else out of it or something else out of it.

 I feel very, very, very honored. I often laugh like, "You chose me?" Like, "What were you guys thinking?" 

Robyn: All on purpose. There's no doubt. 

Karen: Yes. 

Mich: Yes. Yeah. Oh. In [00:50:00] some profound way. But thank you. I'm so grateful to be here with both of you and, , it's just such an honor. And, may we all just keep shining our lights bright.

Yes. 

Robyn: Thank you.