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June 2026 Tarot Forecast: The Choice That Changes Everything (Michelle Nolan) - Episode 234
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After months of rapid change, unexpected twists, and constant movement, June arrives with a powerful invitation: Who are you when everything around you is shifting?
Intuitive Tarot Therapist Michelle Nolan returns with her monthly tarot forecast, and this month's message is both deeply personal and profoundly empowering. While the energy of June is intense, it's also transformational. The cards reveal a month filled with choice, courage, authenticity, and the opportunity to align more fully with your true path.
If you've been feeling tested, challenged, or asked to make decisions that require honesty and conviction, this forecast is for you.
IN THIS EPISODE, WE EXPLORE
- Why June feels like a turning point after the intensity of recent months
- The surprising role choice and free will play in your spiritual journey
- How to know when you're aligned with your true path—and when you're being called to course-correct
- The difference between reacting to life and consciously creating it
- Why some old fears, habits, and patterns may resurface this month—and what they're trying to teach you
- The relationship between authenticity, self-trust, and personal transformation
- A powerful message about love, truth, and coming home to yourself
THE BIG THEM FOR JUNE
This month isn't about forcing answers or pushing harder. It's about listening more deeply.
June asks us to get honest about what we truly want, what we're ready to release, and who we're becoming as we move through a year that's already brought so much change.
The cards suggest that clarity comes when we stop looking outside ourselves for direction and begin trusting what we've known all along.
There may be challenges. There may be choices. There may even be moments that test your resolve. But beneath it all is an opportunity to step into a more authentic, aligned version of yourself. And that may be the greatest gift of all.
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Robyn: [00:00:00] I'm Robyn Miller Brecker and I'm Karen Loenser. Welcome to Seeking Center, the podcast. Join us each week as we have the conversations and we, through the spiritual and holistic clutter for you, we'll boil it down to what you need to know now, we're all about total wellness, which to us needs building a healthy life.
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And for the best wellness and spiritual practitioners, experts, products, experiences, and inspo, visit theseekingcenter. com. After months of change, challenge, and growth, what does June hold for us? Intuitive tarot therapist Michelle Nolan is back with her monthly tarot forecast to help us understand the energy of the month ahead and how to work with it. Let's dive [00:01:00] in. Hi, Michelle.
Michelle: Hi, Robyn. How you doing?
Robyn: I am very ready to hear what June is going to bring, because I'm very happy to say goodbye to May.
That's what I'm gonna say.
Michelle: Yes. Yeah, you had a, you had an intense May. I did. You had an intense May. Yeah.
Robyn: Did you have an intense May?
Michelle: I think so, in a very different way. Yeah. I think there was just, there's just a lot of movement. There was a lot of movement in May that we talked about, and I know it was Karen and I on the last one.
Yes. So we talked about the speed of things. And then your beautiful, you're a Taurus, so your beautiful energy was like the supportive underneath factor that was keeping things a little more grounded. Mm-hmm. You know? So there was that safety net-
Robyn: Yeah ...
Michelle: of having moments of slowness, moments of intentionality, and moments of some sensuality- Yeah
so we can connect back to our body a little bit and connect back to an earthiness, because the speed is just [00:02:00] really the focus of this year in general. Yeah. Totally. And so it was almost amping up in a weird way last month. And now let's see. I don't know how it's gonna play
Robyn: out in June.
Looking forward to seeing what is coming our way.
Michelle: Yeah. Yeah. I know. Me too. Because I feel like I have a lot of things up in the air. Yes. And I'm sure you have a lot of things up
Robyn: in
Michelle: the air. Yes. Yeah. I'm sure a lot of people do.
Robyn: Yeah. And here we are in, it feels like summer's finally upon us, at least for us in Chicago.
It's sunny. It's not freezing. Yeah. That's, that's my qualification. Yeah. It's not 80, but it's not freezing.
Michelle: I love this weather. Like sunshine, 72, it's perfect.
Robyn: Yes. So all right let's go.
Michelle: Let's see. Let's see what we got, right? Okay. So I'll do a little recap, even though I just kind of did.
Yes. But the very, very end- Exactly ... of May. Yes, please. The very end of May. We were [00:03:00] kind of coming into m- like a path clearing. Karen and I talked about almost like we were going down this river rapid, and then we finally got to this, a little bit of more of a calm at the end of May. And it was moving into like a flow state.
And the Ace of Cups was the last card of May, which was about really being heart-centered and kind of being in that emotional space, going back to instead of all that air energy, and then going back into a flow and f- from our heart, right? And then this pairing of really our truth comes from our heart, not our mind, right?
Not our head, not our mind. Our truth is within our heart. And so listening there is a hard thing to do a lot of times, and we don't operate that way, but we should operate that way.
Robyn: We, we absolutely should.
Michelle: Right. So it's hard to do, especially when things are fast because I think that's when logic in our head takes [00:04:00] over, is we go into thinking space.
Mm-hmm. Um, so let's see, because we are in air energy now with June. It's Gemini. Yeah. So let's see how that kind of counteracts, because I know we have a lot of Uranian energy still that's happening, a lot of change, and a lot of weird change, you know? Yes. When you think of Uranian energy, you just, it's unexpected.
Robyn: It's really unexpected. Yeah. And it's kind of major.
.
Robyn: I mean, depending... and for each person that I talk to, it's very different, but it's big.
Michelle: Yes. Yeah, it, it feels very disruptive.
Mm-hmm. So let's see. I'm feeling a tower in here, but let's see.
Robyn: All right.
Michelle: I'm not always right about that, but let's see.
so let's open the session. Spirit, please open the session for the Seeking Center community and for myself, and for everyone that is listening. Please give me clear and concise messages for what is it you wanna speak with everyone about, and please allow everyone to have [00:05:00] an open heart and open mind to hear these messages.
And we thank you for your guidance, protection, and connection today Okay. We're coming in hot.
Robyn: Oh, God.
Michelle: Oh, okay. King of wands is opening this month, When I said change, he is the master of change. fire energy is active, Fire energy is about momentum. It's about... It's the physicality of the change.
It is the actions involved with change. So I'm feeling a lot of... It's funny that let's rewind a bit back to beginning, ' cause we're six months in now. Weird, right?
Robyn: I know. I was gonna say that. We are. Mm-hmm. We are six months in, yes.
Michelle: So let's rewind back to the beginning of 2026 and remember not just fire horse energy, but [00:06:00] remember that I talked a lot about tiger energy and the strength card.
Robyn: Yes.
I very much remember that,
Michelle: That was kind of this, bigger theme, I think, going on in 2026. And the king of wands here in this deck has a lion behind him.
Robyn: Oh, yeah, it does.
Michelle: And that, not a tiger, but it is In tarot it's definitely symbolic of Leo. It's definitely symbolic of strength.
It's definitely symbolic of courage, So if we think if we're embodying this right coming into June, it's taking a breath and then saying, " I just gotta do it." "I just gotta do this. I just pick myself up from wherever I'm at and make it happen." So when we're dealing with obstacles, when we're dealing with change, when we're dealing with anything that requires us to kinda just find that inner strength however that works for us, I feel like it [00:07:00] is, kinda this inner call either bow out or step up.
So we have choices. we can pretend that the change isn't happening. We can pretend that we- let everything else just take over. Or we can have agency with the change, We can have agency with the direction that we wanna go in.
We can have agency with the outcomes that we really wanna have happen. And we can find that kinda deep-seated inner strength that I think is required to funnel those a- funnel that change into a specific path that we want to activate, So, and the why I'm saying path, because next to this is the two of wands with this eight of pentacles.
This very much is talking to me about the door being wide open now, and this is the choice, We are always given choices. it's funny this is kinda coming up because [00:08:00] I'm, feeling the, term will, okay? If we talk about the theme of and free will. I just had this conversation recently about someone very much admire in the spiritual space, and we were talking about Do we have free will?
What is free will, Do we really have that? Because we talk about that spiritually all the time. Like, well, if we're destined for something, if we are supposed to be where we are, then where is free will in that equation, Where is it? So in this conversation , and I, will say I am a big believer in free will.
That's always been... Just because probably I'm a little rebellious, I don't like to be told what to do, I, I like to do my own thing. I think authenticity is a big part of But she kind of shed some light on something about free will that I think is important here. She was talking to me about that when we're in alignment spiritually, that free will is a zone, It's not in anything and everything. Because if we are out of that alignment, sure, those are choices we're making, but if we're out of that alignment, [00:09:00] things don't work. Things start falling apart. Things start feeling like resistance.
So we had this discussion that free will isn't in anything and everything. It is within the zone of your alignment for your path, in your path. So if we think of it that way, sure, we need will to push forward into the outcome. That's our energy, our work as a 3D human self, We need momentum. We need to take Our spiritual, soulful self cannot take action. It can only guide and try to keep us in that zone of alignment. But we decide if this is alignment or we are making rash choices out of our alignment.
Robyn: I get what you're saying,
Michelle: Okay. So I think the beginning of this month- The change is just part of the g- equation and part of the conversation now, Change is almost becoming we're just used to this. Every day we wake up, [00:10:00] something happens that we didn't expect. Something happens in the world that are almost not surprised about anymore.
Robyn: Yes.
Michelle: Yeah. You know, aliens are real. Yes. That ki- right? That kind of stuff. Like, oh-
Robyn: Yeah ...
Michelle: and we just aren't affected by the change anymore. Now it is about what is our work with keeping in alignment with the correct path through the change? And our actions have to stay within that, yes, free will zone, but not reactive where we start becoming outside of that zone of frenzy and misalignment.
Robyn: I think you've you're explaining this really clearly for people. It, resonates deeply with me. I would think that people who listen regularly to us will understand what you're saying, and most likely this is very resonant for them at this time. Your point in terms of [00:11:00] that will and being in alignment is really I like how you put it, the zone
Michelle: it's a zone. Like, there, there are bumpers,
Robyn: there are. I think that's true, because I think that there is some sort of path that we put in place before we got here. Within that path, there are We have free will. However,, our soul knows- what you said, like, , what is going to serve us best.
And so we can feel when we're making a choice that feels hard.
Michelle: Yes.
Robyn: That feels icky, that makes your stomach turn. it's the kind of thing where you're up at night really having to think hard about it because it's most out of alignment- Most of the time. I know that that's a generalization but that to me is what you're saying.
Yes. And so, to come into June as you change,, I think what you also explained really beautifully is that we become accustomed to constant [00:12:00] change. As we know, change is always going on, but there is something especially in this last year where it has become normalized.
Michelle: Right.
And- And we're starting to get used to that, upending-
Robyn: Yeah ... or
Michelle: the disruption.
The pivots that seem to just come out of nowhere, And I think We're not supposed to be reactive. So let me talk about this king of wands- Yes ... because I see he's such a big player here because that is masculine And, the low vibration of the king of wands would be Reactivity meaning we are just reacting to our environment, the change, the situation, and we're having more of a impulsive, reckless approach to our decisions for the actual path that we're supposed to be on, So instead of being highly reactive, we should use that energy instead the high vibrational king of wands would use it as momentum.
Would use it [00:13:00] as inspiration.
We use it as excitement, reaction can become thoughtless, If we're just reacting. And since he's the mastery of fire, he speaks to his ability to transmute that energy into non-reactivity, but for movement, For change, for movement.
The other thing about the king of wands is, and I'm sure maybe people are even feeling this, and it might be a little under the surface. When a lot of change goes on, and maybe there's things that are happening in their life that they didn't expect or they didn't plan for, and it just seems like that's happening to them, We have a very easy approach to get angry, The king of wands, his low vibration would be anger and resentment and frustration, So I always tell people anger is a very positive energy. We need anger. Anger fuels change. But when it's an unhealthy version, it is projected as [00:14:00] negativity and as reactivity and as conflict.
So if we see anger, if we have any of that right now in the beginning of this month because maybe things are moving so quickly or there's things that are disruptive, is use anger as more of a trigger for yourself to understand where you need change to happen. And then you start accepting the change and riding the wave of that fire energy of change, and you're excited by it.
Robyn: I love that. it's a good reminder, there's always a way through. it may not be the easiest, but It will work itself out, and I don't mean to sound trite. It will. this is part of the life adventure. Mm-hmm. That is how I like to think of things, and I think your point is a really good one in terms of that anger, frustration being the trigger.
Michelle: Mm-hmm.
Robyn: Right. And you can, you can transmute it. You can have a different perspective around it. You [00:15:00] can... that is the choice. That is the free will. You can choose to look at it differently. And then honestly, things do-
happen, it will then feel more p- smooth, positive, easy because you will become more in alignment once you can, you can use the trigger.
Michelle: Right. So I think the first part of this, June, is, it's very heavy-handed with the fire energy. but the way it looks to me is this, understanding that we do have will.
We do have courage. We do have, momentum on our side. And- And strength ... and strength, And that things are not just happening to us, and that if we're riding that in the right way, we are kind of opening, almost like, I'm kinda getting this visual of Have you ever been on a rollercoaster, like I'm thinking like Disney World, where, you kind of go into those tunnels, and then [00:16:00] it's like one scene happens, and the next scene happens, and you're kind of riding it, and it's like a door opens, and a door opens, and a door opens, and it's like scene, and scene goes by.
And I feel like this is kind of what's happening is As you're moving, all these doors are opening.
The doors keep opening. if you were to get scared that the door wouldn't open when you got there-
Robyn: Yeah ...
Michelle: you'd be freaked out, right? Right. You'd be like, "I'm gonna run into this wall," but if you trust that when you get there the door opens- ... then I think that's kind of the high vibration of this energy is he's riding a fire wave, right? Ooh. Like, I get here, and it, it opens the exactly at the time it's supposed to. And that is, I think, the effort that our kind of 3D self needs right now that's the work that we have to do is to be able to ride it.
Right? And then to trust- So good ... that when we get to that door that's supposed to open, it will open.
Robyn: That's exciting.
Michelle: It should be
Robyn: exciting. It's a r- it's a ride.
Michelle: I mean, when roller coasters, that's why we love/hate them, right?
Robyn: Exactly. [00:17:00] They're scary but- But then you get off and you're like, "I did it.
I did it." And you know, for the most part. For
Michelle: the most part. Right. Right. Right. It's exciting, but- Yeah ... you're also scared at the same time. Yeah. So that is the feeling right now. Yeah. That's the feeling I'm getting here in the beginning of June. It's exciting but scary.
So it's very much like a rollercoaster.
Oof. Very much. So the middle of this month- We have this 10 of wands, more fire.
Robyn: Wow.
Michelle: Six of pentacles, and the nine of wands. Wow, lots of fire here. Nice. Fire and earth energy. And then we're gonna talk about this guy right in the middle. Devil card is right in the middle as the obstacle and the block.
So when I said this is intense. This rollercoaster is, level Mach 10 rollercoaster, right? Whatever. I don't know what the rollercoaster scales are like. What the ratings are, but this would be a 10. so the 10 of wands in this middle of this month with the nine of wands there, too.
this is a heavy load. Like, it's not just intense. [00:18:00] It's just a lot, right? It's just a lot of energy. It almost feels very saturated energy. It feels compact, okay? Like, it's all happening at the same time. It's like being on that rollercoaster where you're like, "Do we really need to go upside down, and twirl, and twist, and do a loop at the same time?"
And they're like, "That's exactly what we're doing," So this is what this middle of this month feels like to me. And the six of pentacles right in the heart of the reading is kind of talking to me about amongst all this, the balance. Amongst all this, the harmony. And it's pentacles energy.
So not only does this feel like a bit of a rebalancing energetically, but it also feels like, I'll be honest, a rebalancing in our internal self of where our will is, where is our will to keep going? [00:19:00] Where is our will to continue? Where is our will to, achieve we said we were gonna do?
Robyn: Major.
Michelle: it shows almost a very human... I'll say this is not spiritual energy. This is human energy, This is when things get hard, and our human side is like I just have to go. Like, I just have to do it. I just have to use all the skills that I have right now everything I've learned, and everything that I know, and just kind of put my nose to the grindstone and just do it.
Get through it. So I think it just shows us, even though I know spiritually, universally, this kind of energy, we don't necessarily like this all the time, but there are moments in life that I think we can look back on later and say, "Wow, I did that."
Robyn: Yeah. It feels like a- Right? ... very much like roll your sleeves up and get in there.
Michelle: [00:20:00] Totally. Yes. It's messy.
but it is for us to see. I think the universe, spirit kind of s- does this sometimes for us to show ourselves how strong we are.
Robyn: Mm-hmm. Yes. Big
Michelle: time. To show us what we're, what we're made of. This is that moment of like, "This is what you're made of."
And, I'm not feeling like the commitment to the path, I'm feeling more of, like I said, that free will zone that we're talking about, and staying in when things are really hard. Like, if we think of, like, a really controversial situation, like I used to say to people, you know, character to is who you are when no one is watching.
And this feels like that. Like, what decisions are you making? What actions are you taking, even if other people don't know you're doing it? Because this is about you.
Robyn: Yeah.
Michelle: This is between you and whatever you believe in, between you and God.
This is between you and universe. This is between you and your [00:21:00] spiritual self. your soul is like, "Let me t- let me see if you really say and believe who you think you are."
Robyn: Speaking to me on every level. I can feel that personally. I can see that for me in this month big time. I know for you it's the same, 'cause we know each other on that, personal and deep level.
and they're completely different situations, and yet they are so major.
Michelle: Yeah.
Robyn: And they are asking us to really showcase who are we and what are we willing to do for ourselves, for our growth, for all of it.
Michelle: And for the authenticity, because the king of wands, ending that space in May with the ace of cups and that kind of heart-centered...
Like I said, the fact that I ended in May saying, "Your truth is in your heart, not your mind," The king of wands then coming into June is [00:22:00] saying, "Your truth is your essence. Your truth is your authentic self." So when you are getting pressed into a corner to not be in alignment, to not be your authentic self, do you cave?
Or, and this is why the devil card is here as the block, because this is not just fear. This is the shadow side to you. To everyone has a different one, This is your shadow showing itself.
Robyn: Oof.
Michelle: showing itself and saying, " Do you see-" That shadow and what do you wanna do with it? Are you gonna harmonize it?
Are you gonna fall prey to it? Are you going to pretend it's not there? Do you deny it? Do you avoid it? So it's asking, what do you do with your shadow, And your shadow is really, if you think about it, your shadow is you, It's still you. It's an alchemy of we need light and dark. But does it rule you?
[00:23:00] Does it make you fall apart? So for me, I'll just be really honest, like security, stability is a huge thing for me. I like my home to be peaceful and not chaotic. Like, it really upends me. and I know that I kinda need a plan. If I don't have a plan, I just, it feels really weird to me.
In my personal life and in my social life, I don't need a plan at all, but in my totality of my life, I need that. And if that's rocked, I don't know if I fall apart in that situation sometimes, or if I rise to the occasion and say, "No, I am stable. I am safe. I am secure. I can move forward," And so everyone kind of has that, and it's, I think this is the question, the test that's happening In June.
It's, your shadow self is showing, and no one else is watching
It's only you and spirit.
So no one's judging, but you're judging-
Robyn: Yeah ... yourself. Totally.
Michelle: Yeah. You're [00:24:00] judging. And this is where free will comes in. So I love that we started with this, because this is the question of, again, do you know yourself enough to not wanna fall prey to the shadow, which is ultimately fear?
And being who you are not, Or do you alchemize that shadow and say, "Yes, this is part of me. I accept that I get so scared about this stuff, that it throws me, that it rocks me if, you know, my stability, let's say, is thrown off." But it's not the question of if I'm scared of it, it's what do I do with the fear?
Like, what do I do with it, And no one is judging me for being that way, but I am judging myself in the sense of, do I have it in me now to move forward? So everyone has that. Everyone has that. So I think this intensity is very much about your character-
...
Michelle: Your integrity, who you are [00:25:00] authentically, and if you're willing, when you're backed in that corner, to still be yourself.
Robyn: That's so helpful. I think we're all gonna hit that sometime this month.
Michelle: That's the free will zone. It- Because this is where the universe says, " We are giving you a choice. We are giving you a choice to not be you," And then what happens? You fall out of alignment, things get crazy, the resistance happens, things are... Uh, we can feel that out of flow state, and that's the universe saying, "That's the choice."
Robyn: Yeah. And I think what I would say to everyone listening or watching is, like, it's never too late You know, you might make a choice out of fear and feel like, "Oh, no.
Now I can't go back," but you can. You can go back. Always. You can go back. Always. You can make a different choice. And so I would just remind you of that. Right. Because it's the human thing sometimes to, give into the fear a little bit. but then you can realize, "Ooh, that [00:26:00] doesn't feel right. I can't sleep. And then you can wake up the next day and make a different choice and start kind of unwind the knotted situation that you might be in. It can happen. Just you'd be surprised by that. Right. And so I think that, this conversation hopefully can, number one, help people anticipate there may be some of this coming up, and then even if it already has, know that you can make it better.
Michelle: Right. So I, I love that- The king of wands and the devil are almost here in battle. You know, if you think about the devil- Yeah. Right.
Robyn: Yes ...
Michelle: if there's anyone I would, I would want him to be the one in my corner right now because he loudly says, "This is who I am."
I am this person. Question me, trigger me, make me kind of run in the other direction, and I am gonna stand my ground because this is who I am."
Robyn: So
Michelle: good. So that is the I am statement that we've been talking about- Yes,
Robyn: we
Michelle: have ... [00:27:00] on the Brief for a long time. So here's the test.
Robyn: .. What I also wanted to bring up is another theme that has come up throughout the last six months, is that we are ready.
We are ready. Our guides, they have said to us, " You don't need to go backwards. It is time to move forward." And so you have everything you need to make these choices. You have the will, you have the strength. You know the feeling of being in alignment, so remember that.
It's not about going backwards. Totally ... I just wanted to say that, 'cause that has been the other theme in
Michelle: this
Robyn: last-
Michelle: Yes. And that is, that's a big theme though for the whole year. Yeah. And so this feels very intense in this month of June about being tested in that department, and showing your personal will and determination.
but also spiritually just showing you that we do have a choice to be in or out of alignment.
key. That is free will.
Robyn: That is key.
Michelle: [00:28:00] Okay, so end of the month. We have the lovers card, the wheel of fortune-
Robyn: Ooh ...
Michelle: and the seven of wands. Oh my gosh, so many wands. So much fire.
I know. So much fire in this. It's so much change. It's crazy. In tarot, The devil card is actually the lovers in reverse. Not everyone knows that. But, this is The only two cards in tarot that have a mirror to it, so, and it's intentional.
The lovers card ending this month I think very loudly is the antithesis. It's like the antidote to the devil. Love and fear, right? Yes. We've been talking about that stuff all the time. All the time. So what does that mean here at the end of June? That means that the only way through this intensity, the only way through this test, this getting backed into a corner or the sheer will and determination, is by tapping into this lover's energy.
The lover's [00:29:00] energy is love of spirit, love of self, love of life, love of the adventure, love of the whole totality, holistic picture of the experience. Connectivity to your life. Connectivity to yourself. So you can't love if you get out of alignment- Mm-hmm ... and choose something that's not you.
And you can't love your life if you are scared to live it.
And you tell others you love them, I'm connected to you, if you don't know who you are You have to know who you are. , This is the test for you to live from that place, that heart place , about saying your truth is in your heart, Your authenticity your self-love, your love for others comes only from that space. So this is the only antidote to the devil.
Robyn: And the fact that it showed up.
Michelle: Right. Right. Yes. [00:30:00] So the determination to just kind of get through this phase I think is really interesting, the wheel of fortune is about this huge cycle change now, right?
We're not just talking about, I'm gonna buy something different for dinner that I've never tried, you know? We're, we're talking about I am not just demolishing something, but I'm really not going backwards. I'm not going backwards in a state of misalignment, of lack of self-love, of a lack of loving my life and the adventure and the experience, not going backwards. And this, at the very end, with the seven of wands, is the conviction.
This is kind of what we get from it, it's so, almost like the spiritual gift. we can do this, what happens at the very end of June is we can feel our self-conviction. We can feel the strength of it, We can feel that it's part of us now. this is the [00:31:00] alchemy that I think is why the six of pentacles, with all this change and intensity around it, it's the heart of the It's the alchemy of the balance of not only am I capable of my free will is my way of saying I am choosing alignment.
That's really the conviction. I'm choosing alignment every single time.
Robyn: Well, and you really know what that feels like
Michelle: Right. You really know because the lovers card wouldn't be here. That's a big energy. The lovers card wouldn't be here if it didn't feel like a complete alchemy of self. Mm-hmm. That's what it is.
like what I do with clients is I'm working, I'm doing shadow work, Trying to alchemize the shadow with the self, the shadow with the light. That we're not denying that the shadow is there. And this is what that alchemy feels like. When you love yourself completely in all aspects and you understand where your [00:32:00] triggers are, your fears are, where you completely get tested every single time, 'cause those are lessons throughout life, usually the repetitive lessons.
And you start to realize that the more I understand that part of me, the more I love myself in totality, and then the more I can operate in my life from an alignment because it's authentically me.
Robyn: Yes. Wow. This month is cuckoo bananas. Like I mean- Yeah ... I mean, with the opportunity to really know who you are.
Michelle: Yes. I had a conversation with a friend of mine. it was kind of a hard conversation to be honest, because I had to express my own personal truth, Regardless of the consequence or reaction.
these are my feelings, this is my truth.
And I think this type of situation for maybe a lot of people right is the consequences might be immediate, but they don't affect yourself, meaning your self.
[00:33:00] Because the consequences are external.
Robyn: That's right. And what the invitation here is you go through a real transformation and an understanding at a foundational and fundamental of who you are.
Michelle: Right. And the consequences are negative or if the outcome is not what you desired, the only thing that matters is that you were true with yourself, because no matter what, it's... Yes ... it feels the best, right? That's right. It feel, it just feels right. Even if the consequences feel wrong, You still feel correct. Yeah. You still feel like you are living from a place of complete honesty.
Robyn: I'm gonna give such a, a weird example, but I'm reading this book right now, right? And in the book, this woman is r- been dating this person that she knows she's not really in love with. And she has to make a as to whether or not she's gonna live with this pers- this sounds ridiculous, but my [00:34:00] point is she knows that it's not the right, and she makes the choice.
In her case, she doesn't know where she's gonna end up living because she's been living with that person. She doesn't have a lot of money. It's all in this book. Point being, it reminds me of this because she knows- Yeah ... no matter what, she can't stay with that person. That is not the right path for her.
She'd be repeating patterns that are not healthy. this is a fictional book, but it, it's very resonant in what we're talking about.
Michelle: The knowing ...
the knowing, and it's also this feeling, when I say this is like no one else is watching- Correct ... meaning it's you and spirit. It's you and whatever you believe in.
You know that something doesn't feel right, is not you, is incorrect, an incorrect path. Now, we might be denying it, 'cause the devil card has illusionary qualities, right? Because we wanna avoid it or deny it or run from it or just say s- screw it under the rug and be like, "I'll deal with it later." But this month is about not dealing with it [00:35:00] later.
Robyn: That's right.
Michelle: This month is about when you're pressed to show who you are, show who you are.
Robyn: Totally. And really, again, this can apply in all situations, really. It can be, all kinds of relationships in your life. It can be the relationship with yourself and what you're willing to be honest about.
It can be with financial situations. It can be with a home, like buying, selling, renting, it has multiple levels, it's even me really dealing with my own grief in my life.
Michelle: Yeah.
Robyn: There's so many ways. This really is so nuanced for each person.
Michelle: Yes, and I think that because it's in this bubble of a lot of change, right? Like, if you think about that, like almost the visual is there's so many paths.
There's so many options. There's so much there's so many decisions. There's so much ways I could go, couldn't go. There's so many things happening at once that lovers card stands out to me as Almost like the quiet, the, the [00:36:00] lighthouse, right? The lighthouse in the storm that says all you have to do is choose what's true for you.
Robyn: Yeah.
Michelle: That's it.
Robyn: The anecdote is simple because we all know it. we all know the whisper. If you can get quiet enough to hear it in your heart, It's there. That we come equipped with.
Michelle: Yeah. we know ourselves, really.
Robyn: We do. We do. We just have to be honest with ourselves. We really do. Yeah. And sometimes that is the challenge, as we know, Yes. And this is, this energy is allowing for that, and what I also wanna say is, having talked to Stevie recently, if you listen to the June 2026 astrology forecast, she talked about how July is a whole other kind of energy on more of a collective level.
so I think what I feel is being validated here in our conversation is this opportunity to get really clear with who you are, where your will is, understanding your strength, knowing what's [00:37:00] in alignment for you so that when other exterior forces come into play for us in this world, we can handle it 'cause we know exactly who we are and what we stand for.
Michelle: Right. And I think, to meld that king of wands and lovers together also is... Part of, like, the love of self is being able to express it.
Robyn: Right?
Michelle: Yes. Being able to express your gifts, being able to express who you are, being able to express what you came into this world with, which was a purposeful essence that you're supposed to give away-
to others because you're the gift, right? Yeah. And that's really what the lovers card is. That's the sharing of your energy. The sharing of you.
Robyn: Oh, this was so good. Michelle, I feel like this got real deep.
Michelle: Yeah. Well, the D- I mean, I knew it was gonna be intense. I'm like, "Is it the tower?
No, it's the devil." So they're, they're really- I
Robyn: mean- ...
Michelle: very similar.
Robyn: And really, from all the conversations [00:38:00] that I've been having with people as of late, I know this is going to resonate with so many of you right now because you may not be talking about it outwardly, however you're all feeling it right now.
And so- what this reading shows us is that we have the ability to do this in general, but especially this month. yeah, take advantage of that energy. Reach out to us. If things come up, we wanna know, whether you share with us on social, you join our community, seekingcentercommunity.com.
we're here. We're all going through this together. However, it's a very personal journey. We're- Yes ... here to support one another is what I'm trying to say.
Michelle: Right.
Robyn: And so if you wanna go and dig deeper, reach out to Michelle at m@mtnolan.com. As I said, reach out to seekingcentercommunity.com or visit theseekingcenter.com.
Find out [00:39:00] what we have going on. We're here to support. We love you. We're in it together. And, good luck in June.
Michelle: I know. The rollercoaster, it's like you know that sound where it's like click, click as you're like going over the the massive- Yes ... drop? That's what I feel like the-
Robyn: We're holding hands right now
yeah. We're all holding hands. Yeah. Click. That's the image that I have right now. We're holding hands as my stomach is dropped to my, beyond like my feet, so.
Michelle: Right. But remember, we wanted to be on the rollercoaster.
Robyn: That's right. Remember, that's the point.
That is why we're here, Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Thank you, Michelle, for your wisdom and your ability to express all of this to us so that we can live our fullest lives. So grateful for you. You're welcome.
Michelle: Thank you. Thank you
Robyn: for having
Michelle: me.