September Tarot Forecast: From Turbulence to Grounding (& Clarity!) [Michelle Nolan] - Episode 189

September arrives after August’s wild shake-ups and the infamous Tower card energy — breakups, breakthroughs, and turbulence galore. So what’s next?

We have Tarot Therapist Michelle Nolan back with the September Tarot Forecast to help you ground, recalibrate, and find clarity amidst 2025’s ongoing twists and turns.

Michelle unpacks:

• The Seven of Swords, Page of Swords, and Justice card as September’s guiding energy.
• Why strategy and focus are essential right now.
• How to navigate shifting perspectives when life (and the world) looks different than you expected.
• The power of karmic rebalancing and why Justice has returned again this year.
• Practical ways to work with Virgo’s earthy, grounding energy to steady yourself this month.

Whether you’ve been feeling the turbulence personally (hello, core patterns and breakups) or you’re just trying to make sense of the collective energy, Michelle’s insights will give you clarity, reassurance, and practical guidance for September.

If you’ve been asking, “What now?” — this forecast has the answers.

Work with Michelle: email her at m@mtnolan.com

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Chapters

• 0:00 Introduction
• 1:03 September Tarot Forecast: From Turbulence to Grounding (& Clarity!)

Transcript

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Robyn: And for the best wellness and spiritual practitioners, experts, products, experiences, and inspo, visit theseekingcenter. com. Tarot therapist. Michelle Nolan is back with the September forecast after August's tower, shakeup, breakdowns, turn breakthroughs. Anyone we're moving into this month wondering what now? Michelle is going to break it all down and help us [00:01:00] as we continue to navigate 2025s Wild ride so far.

Let's get going. Hi Michelle. Hi Karen. H I still can't get over that tower card. 

Michelle: Yeah, I was reflecting on it and I was thinking, of course, August Leo Energy's gonna be dramatic, Like on stage, a performance, and that's exactly what it was. 

Robyn: I think we're 

Michelle: rolling into hopefully a more gentler energy. 

Robyn: Yeah. we also ended August with the hangman. 

Michelle: Yeah, there was in that five of Pentacles, I think it was a very collective message for everyone. Where we forecasted where we'd be at this point wasn't quite the mark, so we really needed to settle in, focus down on that belief that things were going to be better, instead of starting to get in this mess of this is really stormy and I don't have the same faith that I did before, that things are gonna work out.

And I think sometimes spirit is loud like [00:02:00] that , because it's a definitive direction, but it's also our choice. 

Karen: I know a lot of breakups that happened in the last month. 

Michelle: Yeah. I talked about turbulence. I was thinking about that for myself, and I know I don't say it enough about the personal energy How it shows up in your life. But for me, it was really getting to like these core patterns of mine that kept trying to rear its ugly head. And I had to Fight it back, try to rework it, try to reframe the new lessons that I've been trying to learn this whole year, and then it felt like turbulence to me because it was jarring,

because I was trying to. Master that change that I think we've all been working towards this year. So let's talk. 

Karen: Yeah. , what's next? 

Michelle: So let's get right into it. Center everybody? We're getting into the earth energy of Virgo, which is September, right? So we kinda wanna slow things down.

 Get a little more detailed and focused about the energy instead of having it wild and all over the [00:03:00] place. A little more productive. So Spirit, please open this session for the Collective Seeking Center and anyone who's listening to this, please allow us all to have an open heart and open mind to receive these messages.

And give me clear and concise messages as well. And we thank you for your guidance and your protection and your connection today. So I pulled an earthy deck of mine that I usually use in the spring, but. We feel like we needed some grounding. We definitely do. Yeah. Okay, so first three cards are coming out. We have the Seven of Swords, the Page of Swords, and the justice card. Now I do remember the justice was, Last month I think we talked about, it was like in the middle there somewhere. That's always like very karmic to me about rebalancing. So right away with the seven of swords coming out at the very beginning of the month, actually all swords energy. ' cause justice is really Swords energy too. I [00:04:00] think again, it is about this mental clarity and focus, So the seven of Swords right at the beginning though.

Is telling me more so about strategy now. When you get into a focus mode if I have to just button things up and just do what I need to do tasks at hand that are right in front of me. There's a realism to that, but you also have to. I think just create in your mind some type of plan and strategy going forward. Otherwise, you're just getting distracted. 

So what I see here right away is. This energy of us, as a collective, trying to just reign that energy in, because the page of Swords that's in the middle there is telling me now that the curiosity of. what's been going on this year.

, The curiosity of Think I have to shift my perspectives. maybe it's not what I thought. Maybe my life isn't as [00:05:00] clear as I was thinking. Maybe the outcomes haven't been exactly what I wanted and the world at large , has been a little rocky, so

how do I live in that, What's my perspective shift now? And thinking of what is the important things in that strategy, In the strategy of focus,

when we talk about strategy, it really has to do with what is you wanna accomplish and then you're eliminating a lot of other stuff. so I feel like this is not exciting energy coming into this Virgo, but Virgo is details, and it's a pressure almost for us to cross our t's and dot our i's we're supposed to get detailed that justice card here with the balance, that's a balance of energy now,

we're supposed to look at the long-term goals, , and not worry about all these little rocky moments that were happening. So if we think through that now, let's say we've been dealing with this for a while. If this is the new norm where things are could be really volatile and things can get actually out of hand very quickly, [00:06:00] how do I stay calm in that? How do I focus and stay calm? How do I get less distracted? How do I balance that energy out? So I think it's really coming from a mental space first, because when I see swords, energy, it has like a coldness to it.

It's a non emotional energy. It's mental and it's intellectual, and it's saying, this is something I have to do, If we're kicking our own butt saying we have to have a goal met, it's a little, I won't say boring, but it is a little boring,

you're like, okay, just have these tasks. I'm gonna check ' em off the list and this is what I have to do. So getting strategic I think is a really big component here. The other part that I'm sensing too is when I put a seven of Swords energy, it is a very big indicator to pull energy back.

 When we're either eliminating some chaos, eliminating some information or maybe objectives that we thought we had, but now we're getting rid of them. I know we were just talking, right?

Robyn was, talking about. All the stuff [00:07:00] on the list, that we wanted to maybe go through Seeking Center in this next fall, but there's things we just can't accomplish. So in that timeframe to say what's realistic what goals are really realistic right now, and then focus in on that.

 I think it is a, call to strategy, but it's a call to elimination 

Robyn: feeling that big time. Yes. 

Michelle: So I think the spirit is kinda saying, don't worry about the things you're back burning right now. You're setting aside and being like, oh God, I would love to get to that, Because the justice card is saying, this is how you do balance out this energy. to align with this vibration right now and try to get very detailed and functional. It's a very productive energy,

Robyn: oh that resonates big time. I was saying like how we're in the first week of September and this weekend it was like, I've gotta get my practical hat on. How in the world do we navigate this next month? And it was very much the things you're saying.

And I know even. [00:08:00] Michelle alluded before we started taping. Today we're talking about, we have so many initiatives for Seeking Center, and we're trying to figure out how do you get 'em all done? And there is only a finite amount of time. So this is very real, it's a very practical energy, 

Michelle: very practical.

And Virgo loves that, The season of Virgo is about organization. It is about productivity. It is about even like health and Checking off these things on your list that seem mundane, but they're really necessary. 

To balance out chaotic energy.

So just to clarify that to the seven of swords I'm getting the world card. Do you remember we had that in August? And now think about that. Now looking back, and I don't know how crazy people's August was, but for me, I felt like it was like packing, 24 hours in an insane amount of time, it was just so fast. So it, you think of a launch and that energy just being frenetic and wild, and who knows what's gonna happen. It's very uncertain. It is like [00:09:00] when we left that launch and the world, everything closed up and now we can see it through the window, You know that calm of like when you like are in flight and you glance down out the window and all of a sudden you're evening out and you glance down at that city and you just mentally say, oh. That's where I was. . That's where I just left and I just reflect on it and Great, now we're moving on. So there is like a calmness there to it, that was then, and now we're moving on to now. So I definitely feel like this retreat is part of that cycle that really needed to wrap up.

So the page of Swords to the Star card now, , that's calm. That is very calm, healing energy, and the star is about the future, The Star card is where we headed, so we're not worried anymore about that rockiness.

We're thinking forward now. I don't know about you, but I have never heard of a strategy that is [00:10:00] about looking backwards. It's about looking forwards, So if we're thinking in that as terms, we're looking forwards now, we're not even looking back at that city. We left We're saying, okay, what's next?

 And the justice to the night of Pentacles. It's very slow moving, which Virgo Earth Energy is step at a time, Let's rebalance this out a step at a time strategies don't need to be they just need to be correct. 

Karen: and 

Michelle: that's where we are right now. 

Karen: I feel like a little bit of an exhale. 

Michelle: an exhale. 

Karen: Yeah. 

Michelle: It feels calm.

Some people might still be feeling a little of that frenetic energy coming off of August, but where we're going now is that exhale. That's totally true, Karen.

Like we need that breath. . It 

Robyn: also makes sense too, for many people whose kids may have been going back to school or going off to college or that kind of routine, it makes sense too, That's all entering September, I think for some, that started at the end of [00:11:00] August, which felt a little frenzied, and now you're getting into oh, this is the new routine for, now this is the new normal, all of that.

So you even have. The practical part of that, 

Karen: Yeah. And people's who's had lives maybe seemingly blew up relationship change jobs. things that were not predictable. Now they're in their new phase. That's so right. Karen? Yes. Taking one step at a time, going slowly just thinking about what's next.

Not doing anything in a rush is really the right place to be.

Michelle: What just popped in my head and I forgot about this visual that we had about the annual forecast is there was a point, I'm curious, looking back to when that was, but there was a point in this whole year about the Hermit Energy was leading this.

Crusade, leading the the new journey, the new venture. And there was a moment, I remember in the reading where the hermit says, do you wanna get on the boat or not? Yes. And if you do wanna get on the boat, it's a [00:12:00] silent leaving, right? It's a, you're making that choice and you're going in a different direction than maybe others are.

And it's not this big. Goodbye. It's a calm goodbye, Okay, that's passed and now we're moving forward. But there is something I'm getting here about the people that really aligned with this ener where I think there was this.

Really deep shakeup, for the people that kind of said, yeah, no, I'm not going back, I need to continue on this progress that I've been making. Even if things are hard, even if I I'm second guessing myself or even if I don't have the faith or the belief system.

That I did at the beginning of the year. The people that kind of stuck through that the that turbulence. I think what's happening right now with that justice card is they got on the boat and now they're drifting in a different direction and the people that didn't do that might actually still be feeling that chaos.

Robyn: That's so interesting. Yeah. [00:13:00] You have to let us know whoever's listening, watching, let us know where you are in that. And I wanna say too, I know we're gonna start to move into the middle of the month, but I know you haven't listened to Stevie's, but I just will say from the beginning of her.

Reading and forecast for September. It was interesting 'cause she said in the first few days of September in this first week, you might still be feeling some of that frenzy. .

So just wanna say that's how it started for her too. 

Michelle: Yeah, and it's like I said, it's not exciting, but it's very forward thinking. We're thinking forward now and it's in a much calmer way. Yeah. Love it. But I love the idea of taking a breath because I do feel like we get in this habit of wanting the next big thing, the next big goal, the next big checkoff on the list.

And we have to have that processing space in between. To sit there and reflect, . And the star card is also about what do we wish for, Let's dream a little [00:14:00] bit because we have that time right now to re-strategize or continuous strategy where we're thinking about the bigger picture.

Karen: Yeah. And almost replenishing ourselves as well, so that we can be ready for that next phase. 

Michelle: Yeah, it's very healthy, like I said, Virgo loves to focus in on that and eliminate, If we're talking about what we're eliminating that isn't working or that isn't healthy for us anymore.

On a collective and also on a personal level. Okay. So moving into the middle of September. I love when the energy of the Zodiac shows up. Okay. So we have the nine of cups. The nine of Pinnacles right in the heart of the reading and the hermit, which I just mentioned. Oh my 

Robyn: goodness.

That is really 

Michelle: and hermit is Virgo in t So This energy is pure. there is some interesting things about Virgo in general. Like I said, detail oriented. But there's a pureness of energy with Virgo that I think it's a very subtle energy.

And sometimes [00:15:00] we kind of float by September a little bit because it's not like as loud as some other months, Energetically it's really peaceful energy and there's a reason for it because. If you think about where we're headed even particularly here where we live is we're headed into kind of a winter space.

We're just starting to nudge in that direction and that starts to close down all that really loud energy and starts to quiet things down. So it's a very transitional energy. So what I'm feeling here with the nine of Cups, the nine of Pinnacles, and the hermit is the nine of cups is beautiful because

that is the kind of wish that we've been putting out there for a long time. Now we're saying, I can focus on me a little bit and focus on what it is that I want right now for this future, What do I want? I've been maybe distracted. I've been maybe thinking about other people.

I've been maybe just reacting to what's been happening in the world. [00:16:00] But now I can center myself a little bit and ask myself that question What do I want in this dream, in this goal, So it allows us to recenter our energy back to us.

Not in a selfish way. It's not about that. It's more about a self orientation of knowing that when we're at a place with the nine of cups and the nine of Pentacles, which is the heart of the reading, is that piece, which I think we talked about also. In that annual forecast is that peace comes from within, It doesn't come from external. It doesn't come from validation from others. It doesn't come from self-fulfillment. It comes from internal, and the hermit is all about that. That is. The hermit's pure lesson of life really is that we are ultimately in charge of just ourselves, And we have to control our energy ourselves first before we can affect anything [00:17:00] else and before we can influence anything else. So very much in this part of the reading, the hermit's reminding us really strongly. Get centered, Get into that peaceful head space in a peaceful, calm energy because no one can think correctly if you're not.

wherever anxiety lives, love does not as they say. And when you are in that space, then you can also have influence on others in that calming presence. And I think when things have been crazy and wild. And there's been a lot of change going on is people look to that calmness now, Who's centered? who has some great advice for me because I need it, right? Like they, look to those people that are just like, how are you managing through all this craziness? And you're like 

Karen: I've 

Michelle: centered myself and I've decided that I have to just focus on what I can control, which is me, And my energy. And just move in that. direction. So going back to that hermit card [00:18:00] about the hermit leading the ship, right? Like I feel like a lot of us got on this boat, which I think is an amazing place to be, And now we can let go a little bit of some of that energy we're trying to control and just let things ride, It's a calm ride now. So it's a very opposite energy of what we just came from. 

Robyn: Can I ask a question too obviously, no, there are different types of cards, but , is there significance to them both being nine, so nine of cups and nine of 

Michelle: Yeah. Nines are a lot about change. And they're also a lot about, higher level, like the ninth house is about higher level learning, , bigger ideas, bigger concepts. It's that space of growth, but usually From the mind, 

Because the hermit is also very much a teacher. The hermit is about lesson. . this middle of this month, we're going inward again because, it was so external [00:19:00] and a little volatile and we're going inward again to recalibrate that space because I think we might have been all affected.

 but the nines the nine of Pinnacles in the heart of the reading, to me, that's the main energy here. Is also a very Virgo card. It is what I like to call the 3D Empress. So , this major shift inward because we've eliminated a lot of the chaos.

, Just to clarify, the nine of cups was this, eight of wands, which was, all about that fast change, even if it was a little bit unconscious, and even if you're like, oh my God, I was not ready for this complete overhaul.

And so it's remembering of this is what I wanted, this is what I wanted, this massive change. I wanted it. So , you went through the hard part.

The Queen of Swords is saying. My intuition was correct. It is better on this other side right here. It does feel ultimately internally calmer the hermit card is going to the fool.

That's the beginning. We're [00:20:00] starting over. So that tower was no joke last August, but it's for that clearing, 

And the hermit is saying, thank you for listening to that inner guidance. That's something you needed. You needed to get on this boat with me. You need to get on this rocket with me.

. And so now I'm going to help you recenter and learn that lesson the right. Peaceful whisper that was telling you to change and go.

Robyn: All right, so let's move on to the, 

Michelle: the very end. . So we have this King of swords. A lot of swords. So much air energy. Again, strategy focus the way we're thinking, the five of Pentacles, which we had in the last reading, and the five of cup. It's a little more logical now. There's not the emotion with the decisions that were made, it's a very clear edged sword.

' cause the King of Swords to me he is not messing around . There is no waffling. I am absolute And that absolute, that kind of [00:21:00] definitive choice now, I think very much had to do with that five of Pentacles that was hanging out in August.

It was. I'm okay with leaving a huge chunk of my life behind because what we are really doing is cutting out the stuff that wasn't serving us anymore, whether it be emotionally, physically spiritually.

That was not just the five Pentacles is a very fundamental energy of lack. It's constraining. . When we think of the Five Pentacles, it's it's good enough and the King of Swords says, no, it's not good enough.

 I don't want that limiting thinking I know that there's more. That's what the hermit would always say, The hermit said, of course there's something outside of you and how do you not know that yet? But the King of Swords is now saying, I know that now.

 My thinking is actually changed. That perspective is actually changed because that five of cups at the very end [00:22:00] is if we were to wallow in anything we left, it would seem like a loss, . I should have done this. I should have said that. I could have tried harder. Maybe I should have stayed all of those things.

But the King of Swords is like very loud here saying, no, absolutely not. I know now that there's more, sure. That might be sad, but I'm not even gonna be in that energy. . I'm not going to the emotional space of that. let's focus ahead.

 So it's a very big mental shift here. And a little cold because swords energy just is, but it's for a reason. when we are in Task oriented things, Next step, what do I need to do If let's say like you were saying Karen some people that had some breakups.

 It's okay, now it's not about the emotions of that. What are the realistic consequences of that? And what do we need to do, what do we need to check off the list? 

Robyn: Wow. I will say. That in Stevie's reading, we're getting to eclipse season and there's one at the end [00:23:00] of the month and it totally ties back to August as well. Oh. And obviously eclipses are just huge changes and it's the crux of what you're talking about , and leaving something behind

you all have to listen to the astrology forecast if you haven't. 'cause you see the relationship and the energy that you're both speaking to. 

Michelle: . So just to clarify that King of Swords is clarifying to the page of Swords, which this is a repetitive card now that we've had. This is that perspective shift.

This is what I was saying in the very beginning. The perspective now is the future. Which is the star, this is really onward kind of movement.

'cause that five of Pentacles, when I said about the kinda limited ceiling of energy that we were leaving behind is the empress is showing up just like that. Nine of Pentacles is that real world empress. The conceptual energy of the emperors to the five Pentacles is spiritually speaking.

Everyone [00:24:00] knows now that there's more. So if we're not even questioning that anymore, now it's okay, so how much bigger and better can I get?

 And then that five cups with the two Pentacles is. , Like justice is a rebalancing, but it's still at the very end of the month. I think still going back and forth with realizing those choices did have an impact on probably with people that's the only emotional card that I'm getting here there might be some disappointments that we're still working through that we're affected by others. If we were to close this reading, I think September is like us looking at the window, seeing that city gets smaller and smaller. And if we're never going back there are memories. There might be a little bit of. Nostalgia then may be a little bit of sadness, but ultimately you feel good being on the plane 

Robyn: and you're excited about what's coming. There's that slight look back at, [00:25:00] wow, look at all we did.

Look at all I've become because of that. Then looking forward and being excited about what's coming. 

Michelle: and I think we know now, like in our core being, if you look at just the collective, we know that the world is never gonna be the same.

 . Every day you wake up, it's obviously we're moving in a different directions towards the future. But I think there's this ultimate really conscious knowing that there is something nostalgic about our past now it actually feels old.

Robyn: That's a really good way of putting it. I think we all can feel that.

And I think what September overall it is giving us. Both that time to get organized as we move forward, giving us the steps, and then also giving us the time as we've talked about, of going within reflecting. So you're doing a little bit of the look back and recognizing how far you've [00:26:00] come. Here we are ninth month of the year.

 You're doing it and we are getting there and we are gonna be a very changed person by the time we get to 2026. And so it's that time of okay, here's what you need to do as we move forward these next few months to really make sure. You understand, you're really looking and , you're doing the thing, you're taking the time, you're looking within, but then you're also practically taking those next steps. 

Michelle: And I think that everything is heady here for me, but do the hermit to the fool card is like the freshest energy, even though the hermit is usually a pretty serious energy. But I think now we understand that this new path that we're on.

 It's not that it just looks dissimilar to what we know, but that it really is a spiritual path. Like for those I think that got on this boat, that got on this rocket ship, that got on this plane, whatever modality or mode of transportation you're taking, it was a spiritual choice, to be like, the direction I'm headed now is gonna look [00:27:00] very different than my life before, because now I have this knowing that there is more. And so anything that I think doesn't align with that I think is getting really eliminated. 

Robyn: which goes along with the whole eclipse season.

Like the idea of the end of the month, the eclipses in Virgo. 

Michelle: So it's, very detailed energy and organized. 

Karen: I was just gonna say too though, for anyone who's listening, perhaps that didn't go through a tumultuous August like I feel like my.

Wasn't. I still feel so much of this resonates in the sense of it's seasonally astrologically, numerology is supporting you in the move forward, so you don't necessarily have to come out of a crazy turbulent August to really. Embrace a lot of these messages about, how to eliminate the things that are not serving you.

How to how to have that focus on what you really want and moving forward and that, [00:28:00] astrologically that will support you as well as through the tarot. I do know so many people who went through so this is like dead on Michelle. But I also feel like I can resonate from that perspective of not necessarily feeling that, 

it just does feel different energetically that calm, supportive, moving forward. Energy. 

Michelle: Yeah, it's very clean. I would say that too, Karen. 'cause when I look back at. How it resonates for me personally, energetically, when I'm trying to align with that energy as much as possible.

 I really do feel like August, some of that rockiness, that tumultuous stuff might not have been on the external, It might be very internal and like for me I wasn't kidding about that. It was really old, deep seated kind of patterns that. I personally, they were my comfort zones, And it wasn't like loud and crazy, but it felt like it kept coming to the surface, getting nudged and shaken up. So I would look at it and make a decision, and sometimes it [00:29:00] can be just that, the tower was called to do that shakeup.

Robyn: Yeah. were leaving September. With this knowing of a new perspective overall. that's what it feels like. Absolutely. 

Michelle: It very much feels like our way of thinking is different. And it's also, just clearer now. I agree. We're clear. 

Robyn: Thank you, Michelle.

Karen: for 

Robyn: giving us this. Guide for the month. And so look forward to then seeing how things come to fruition when we do October. And if you'd like to work with Michelle, you can reach out to her at m@mtnolan.com. You can also find her within the Seeking Center community, and you can learn more about that@seekingcentercommunity.com.

 Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you.