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August 2025 Tarot Forecast: Chaos, Clarity + the Tower You Needed (Michelle Nolan) - Episode 184

• Robyn Miller Brecker, Karen Loenser, Michelle Nolan • Season 2 • Episode 184

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Whew. If you’ve been feeling like August is coming in hot—with major “What is going on?!” energy—you’re not alone.

Tarot Therapist Michelle Nolan is back with a tarot forecast that does not hold back. We’re talking a full energetic rocket launch into transformation mode. Michelle takes us through the explosive yet enlightening energy of the Tower card and what it means to break through limitations and embrace your truth in a big, bold way.

From last month’s Magician energy (hello, manifesting!) to this month’s Tower shake-up, Michelle’s reading lays it all out so you can ground, grow, and rise.

Leo season + that big fiery Sun card? It’s all about showing up authentically.

Listen for:

  • What the Tower card really means
  • Why breakdowns are divine breakthroughs
  • How to work with August’s wild cosmic energy instead of against it

It's your permission slip to surrender to the change and remember that breakdowns often bring the breakthroughs we’ve been secretly asking for.

This one’s a soul-level shake-up, fam. You’re ready.

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Robyn: And for the best wellness and spiritual practitioners, experts, products, experiences, and inspo, visit theseekingcenter. com. Hi everyone. . We have tarot therapist. Michelle Nolan back to get an update on the energy for this month, August, 2025. What can we expect and how can we best use the energy? Let's find out. Hi [00:01:00] Michelle. Hi Robyn. How you doing? I'm very excited to be talking to you because as we were saying right before we hit record today, there is some crazy ass energy that we are just getting out of, and this particular first week of August is feeling overwhelming, and so I cannot wait to see what comes through for this week and then the rest of the month.

Michelle: Yes. And I think we already went through a crazy July. I was saying to you, I don't know if other people feel this way, but I felt like three months, not one month. And I had to rewind and even look at what I talked about at the end of forecast for July. So thank you for doing that. We're gonna start with that energy, right?

Let's just remember let's talk about that. Okay. What did you find? So it ended with the magician card. Yes. That was the big takeaway. the idea was we were Breaking some rules some longstanding structural things in our life and letting [00:02:00] that uranian energy, which is magician energy, blow stuff up for us, but in a really positive way.

It wasn't destructive in the sense of disruptive in a negative way. It's supposed to be to break us out of the box, and I think I talked about dreaming big, thinking big, taking big risks. then that's when we launch from a magician energy, really it's limitless, right?

It's no holds bar. So that's where we got launched from. So it's like a rocket ship in takeoff, and now we're in takeoff. And what do we do? 

Robyn: Oh gosh, yes. that resonates so deeply with me, and I know it does for you too. I have to imagine everyone listening to us right now or watching is feeling that because it's literally the conversation I have had over these past few days with anyone that I come into contact with in life is like, yeah, what is going on?

Michelle: and summer's always fast, right? We always, I think we always look at it like. It's such an external energy and we just are busy and [00:03:00] we're social and we're out there. We're coming to the end of summer, right? Yeah. Okay, so let's get into it. Okay, so let's think in terms of Leo Energy, Because August is all about big, bold Leo Energy, which is. The sun card in the tarot. if we think of that as like the highlight of summer, being in a very extroverted external energy, let's see if that comes to play with the tarot. Spirit, please open the sessions for the Seeking Center community and for anyone who's listening, and please allow me to have. Clear and concise messages for the community, and please allow them to have an open heart and open mind to receive these messages. And we always thank you for your guidance and your protection and your connection to that.

Oh, okay. The tarot is never wrong in my book. It isn't with you because you're just a 

Robyn: direct channel, Michelle. 

Michelle: Oh, thank you. Okay, i'm just gonna tell you we jump from the magician and when I say disruptive, what is comes up? First card, [00:04:00] the tower. 

Robyn: Oh my God. 

Michelle: Yes. Okay, so I'm gonna put this card up here 'cause I know some of this is gonna be not just podcasts, but on YouTube.

. The tower breaks things apart. The tower launches us in a direction that we might have not expected. The tower is there to clear the path to anything and everything that could come after that. That is crazy energy. I am 

Robyn: really. Freaked, but I know it's a good thing. Everyone listen, that's a good thing to watching. It's a good thing. Yeah. you can feel that energy right now. Oh, you 

Michelle: can feel it. Like when I said rocket ship, that's how it feels, Yeah, . Like someone just said, press the launch button and then before you could say, whoa, you're just already go on. Now I know I talk about tarot is there's some cards that people get really freaked out about and there are some things that we don't like.

And as human nature, we don't necessarily like [00:05:00] disruption. We don't like change, we don't like things to be out of our control. But the tower really is here to. Remind us one, we are not really in control all the time. And two we probably attracted this energy in. Okay, now we're speaking collectively, but I always like to bring it personally as well.

But when we speak about law of attraction and what is necessary for our growth and for our life. We really need those moments of major resets, Major clearings, And I think as a collective we have been embracing this kind of rapid change. We've been calling it in, we've been saying, you know what?

Stuff has been stuck. I can't maybe personally make the right decisions all the time about the trajectory of my life, so I'm gonna just let go and let things [00:06:00] just fall apart if they need to and see what happens and let the kind of cookie crumble as they say. So I feel like that's.

 an important piece right now to understand that if things feel crazy and chaotic, there's not only a reason for it, but we as a collective energy have decided to pull that in. That is not unintentional. We have decided that there's a lot of things that has probably needed fixing for a while.

, And we've been collectively. Saying, I guess we have no choice now. We have no choice but to just bring this energy and take everything down. 

I think that's part of it, because next to the tower, I'm getting the world card.

Oh my goodness. So right in the beginning of August if I just was to be really literal about tarot, which I never really am, but I'll say this piece feels almost literal to me. This is like the world falling apart. So the world and tower, are very kind of similar [00:07:00] energies as far as the conclusions, It's about something that existed, a cycle in your life, a pattern in your life a actual place in your life, your 3D environment. Something that existed is no longer going to exist, so those cards are very similar, but they act in very different ways. So the tower is that kind of wrecking ball kind of feeling.

And the world card is this kind of cycle coming to a close. So if we look at that kind of together, it's really stating that. For this kind of cycle to end, we needed that wrecking ball energy, We needed it. It was like required for this kind of to get shaken up and loosened , for it to finish, to conclude.

But it is, I think, where we are right now, at least coming into August, is we consider this to be more of looking at the aftermath. Of when a cycle ends that clearing is so peaceful. Clearing is actually really [00:08:00] positive. There's so much space.

There's no clutter, there's an efficiency. So if we look at that as what's actually positive coming from a very destructive energy.

Is we're allowing for that space to be completely demolished so we can build something new. And the building of something new is what I'm seeing here towards the end of this. First part of this energy for the beginning of August is the page of wands to the three of Pinnacles. Now I know we talked about this again in the Tarot 20 25 annual forecast.

About the last part of the year was all about that three of Pentacles. Okay? It was all about that magnetizing, this new world, this new community, the new kind of foundation that we're setting. That's really needs to be set as the new foundation. so this feels very large to me.

Like the beginning of August feels more very big picture, But if you wanna bring it to your personal life, [00:09:00] think of this as you disrupting you. If you were just taken apart. In all facets of looking at your patterns, looking at your emotions, looking at your life, and you could remove all the pieces you wanted to just throw away and put a new piece in.

This is the spot for it, because we're trying to reorganize ourselves on a personal level to be different. Completely different, I think this is the really positive part of this coming out of this such a big energy coming into August is there are a lot of people, ' cause then I get the three materials with three of pentacles that very is much community.

is like our tribe, our close friends, family, the people that are around us. Everybody is experiencing the same thing. 

You're not alone, in feeling the disruption.

You're actually part of a really large community of people. Feeling the exact same [00:10:00] way. So if there's anything that binds people together, it's through the recognition that we're experiencing the same thing at the same time. 

Robyn: that's bonding totally. I have to say, I do a download every week in our community.

I also send it out in the newsletter, and that was exactly the message for this first week of August, , there's never a coincidence. Because we're both picking up on this universal energy, and it's just a matter of how we express it. And so I love that. For me, it's very validating in terms of the messages that I received and for you through tarot, how you're receiving these messages.

Michelle: I think it makes us all feel. Not alone if you are feeling a level of upheaval or a level of disruption in your personal life I think the connection that yes, it might not look the same in someone else's life, but the energy and what they're experiencing is the same.

, I think for the world at large at this point, [00:11:00] is that emphasizes the idea that we are all one.

So if we, take the higher level spiritual message, which is always the point in doing any of this is to take the message of not that your life is getting disrupted or that you can't control change,

it's, how about we all do, so we all have kind of the recognition and the responsibility to rebuild it together. 

Robyn: And compassion. 

Michelle: And compassion, 

I think that's huge. Let me just to see if there's any other bits I can get out of that since it's such a big energy. Let me just pull another deck just to clarify.

Yeah. Okay. When I said, we've called this in, 

Energies attract other energies. And we know this now with quantum physics.

We know this now of the science backed Of how energy moves and changes and shifts. And if we look at this like we have been calling this energy in for a very long time, , not that it shouldn't be [00:12:00] surprising and we shouldn't have a reaction to it, but I think the purpose of it is that.

It's all meant to happen, how it's supposed to happen. I guess the takeaway for that because to the World Card, we're getting that five of wands, which is change. Like just change upon change, and then upon change again. 

Robyn: Wow.

If Spirit could like just make a point, it would be, yeah. , There is a huge point being made right now. And you're listening to this so that your soul is getting the validation it needs.

Michelle: And I think the world to the five of wands. this kind of tells me there are a lot of conflicting energies with The tower even being here shows me that. So it's like people resisting the change only makes the tower louder. It only makes it more powerful. The more you resist, the bigger the impact.

Robyn: Yes and for those [00:13:00] listening and they're thinking when we talk about change and wanting change, and then if we resist it, I think we have to clarify that. Okay. Because some people might be looking at this on this worldly view and they don't want to see harm done to others, let's say, let's just clarify what we mean by that. So that we're not saying don't stand up for certain rights. Do you know what I'm saying? 

Michelle: No, not that, but I think it's the overarching like evolution, If we're not looking at like the minuscule maybe battles, We're looking at the overall war.

And the overall war is that there is a massive shift happening. lemme talk about it let's look at it from let's say an AI perspective, right? There's conflicting, controversial ideas of is that a good thing or is that a bad thing?

that's not the question. The question isn't, is it good or is it bad? The question is, are you allowing for the [00:14:00] change in the evolution to happen or are you fighting the change in the evolution to happen? It's really not really a call to question if it's good or bad. 

Robyn: It's here, and by the way, it's here and we no matter what, how can we use it?

from a lens of good in the world and Right. The lens of evolving in the world. In a positive way. it comes back to that lens, that perspective, Because that's what's so important. Yeah. And 

Michelle: perspective, like I 

said, a very high level view way. I appreciate how you put that. It is the larger picture here. 

Yeah, the larger picture is important because, again, on a personal level, of course, like if something's happening in your own life, that is really disruptive, like losing a job, let's say, that's very personal.

That is very difficult. And it's not meaning oh just be okay with that. Have no feelings about that. Have no reaction to that. That's not the point. [00:15:00] The point is to elevate past that and say, okay, I know this is hard. I know this is difficult. I understand that I'm gonna have a lot of feelings and maybe having my ego bruised during the process of this.

But when we elevate to a spiritual understanding of our life on a higher plane, we see this as a blip. We don't see it as a personal offense and also a kind of a change that we can't get over, an obstacle we can't get through. We see this as a much smaller, insignificant blip in your whole.

View of your life. 

Yes. 

Robyn: you have to go through the feelings as you were saying. Like it's important to have the feelings and then. As you process, you can begin to looking at it as a redirection, as an opportunity. I know in my own life this has happened over the last few weeks with something, and at first I was in it, I was upset, and then the more I could look at it as, [00:16:00] life is gonna be okay, and this is the universe's hand, and saying go right instead of left.

And so you can look at things that seem really huge, like losing a job. And again, process. But then , there is something down the road, hopefully not in the too distant future that will be an opportunity 

Michelle: for your soul. Because when I get a World Card energy, it absolutely is an invitation to close a chapter.

It's saying, please close this chapter. It's not serving you anymore. It's not good for the collective if we're looking on that scale. And it also, you don't know what's in that next chapter. So of course it's scary. But honestly, it's the way that change is supposed to happen and the process of dealing with that and going through it, but be more excited about the next chapter.

And if we're in that mindset, like if we're in that kind of energetic [00:17:00] alignment, then we're actually again, calling in energy, calling in the positivity of that next chapter and the openness and the kind of abundance that could come in from that next chapter instead of fighting another chapter.

Closing. 

 And then part of that. Three of Pentacles with a page of wands. I'm getting this Knight of Swords. So very quick, again, very fast energy. It's all fast energy except for that tower with the Knight of Pentacles. But I think that's more about the longevity of the path that has come up to where we're at.

But the Night of Swords with that three of Pentacles is really telling me more about information more than anything else. Right now we have so much information. We have so much data. it's almost like overwhelming, right?

The amount of speed of data and how fast it moves. what I'm getting with this, a little bit about not really worrying about all the information, right? The more we isolate and just absorb so [00:18:00] much information all the time, it takes us out of the larger picture, you start becoming hyper-focused on things that you shouldn't maybe be holding onto or looking at, and it entrenches you. But if we stay in this view of. I might open up Instagram and see some posts on something that happened today and it might sit with me in the wrong way.

And then tomorrow it might be completely different. So if we look at it like there's almost an overwhelm of information. 

Robyn: I would say, there is an overwhelm there is 

Michelle: not almost. 

Robyn: And both like from that collective perspective as well as I think for most of us in our own personal life too.

Michelle: Communication in general is high right across every aspect of humanity right now. Whether it be from technological to even, the vibe of speaking and talking and, us doing this podcast right now, right? So a lot of podcasts, all of that. So there's a lot of information.

So I think the whole [00:19:00] point of this. Is for us to get a little bit better at discernment of what's really important and what is truly just information and chatter. 

Some of that just is noise, really is just noise It's not about that, it's not important and that you don't have a reaction to it.

It's that it's changing so fast that it might not even matter tomorrow. I think that's 

Robyn: awesome to keep in mind, that can actually be really refreshing for people. 

Michelle: Cause I think we're getting used to a new way of being like that. And I would say some of the advice about that is to remove a little bit from the constant absorbing of information. 

 Absolutely. 

 

Michelle: so in the heart of August. Okay. We move from that page of wands through a Pentacles to this three of wands. five of swords, and the nine of wands.

 A lot of change energy still. When we get wands energy, , it's very much about fire energy and change energy. in the heart of the [00:20:00] reading, is this Five of voices. Of five of swords. So what I'm seeing here is what we're in the heart of the reading that Five of Swords is a very not so smooth transition. Okay. All right. it's a bumpy transition. I always like to keep with visuals, but if we're going to that rocket ship and we're really launched here and then we hit really a heavy, turbulent.

Area. That feels even more jarring. So not only are we moving fast, but then there's turbulence along the way too. So it's almost kind of double the shakeup. why that's important is the three ones on the one side and then the nine of ones on the other.

Is the direction that we're heading in, because all that is almost like showing me the path, the direction we're like moving along, but then the nine of wands is we hit these roadblocks, so I think the heart of August is about. Determining where those turbulent patches are. 

And trying to [00:21:00] navigate either through them, around them or with them. But the turbulence is real. as I'm moving towards the end, just to look forward because all of that middle seems to be don't wanna say it's not significant, but I feel like it's just part of the path right now. It's just like in the way and then as we get to the end of August, we get the hangman, the seven of ones and the five in materials. That is definitely, this is tough energy. Okay. As we're moving towards the end of August, like this is all, feels tough to me.

Where we almost have to be strong. There's like a strength. And now that goes back to Leo, in ot. Leo is the sun card and it's also considered to be the lion, Strength. And I feel like this whole vibe of this August is strength is required, This is not an easy energy. To be blazing through. So part of this energy that we're moving towards and why this one [00:22:00] seems to be standing out to me the most, seven of Wands is we're literally supposed to retrain our brain to think, not in the now, but where we're going, the future.

It's the future. it might be crazy right now. This feels like this is nuts, This is like, how am I even handling this turbulence? I feel like I'm gonna die. But if you reset your mind to think, okay, it'll be fine. I know this turbulence is gonna be over in 10 minutes.

I get it. This is really rough. But in the whole spectrum of things, I'm going somewhere where I'm supposed to be going. this is why I'm on this path right now, but this season, this month feels rough. 

Robyn: It's shaking us to our core in a way, in order for us to really be on that path towards, I would say, the highest potential for our future.

Michelle: Yes, [00:23:00] to even get through this, I don't mean to sound so I don't know. it's Leo, so it's dramatic. It does feel dramatic, you can feel the energy. It feels dramatic. It is, yeah. Leos are, that's a dramatic, they're good at that.

Maybe it's supposed to be this way, so it feels this way because change should feel not boring. 

 Yeah. Change 

Should feel a little crazy at times. Change should feel uncomfortable. I would say this embrace being uncomfortable. Embrace it because. , Again, there's something with the tower that's so important as the start of this reading. 'cause I tell people all the time, if it's in a personal reading, there's two types of towers.

There's the tower that we can white knuckle, And no matter what, there's nothing you can do about it. It's happening. And then there's the tower that we ride, Where you're either stopping the wave or you're riding the wave. And if you're riding it. You find this isn't that bad, is it outta my control completely? But it [00:24:00] definitely feels better than trying to stop a wave. I 

Robyn: think that's really great advice. 

Michelle: So because that's such the strong energy that the first energy coming into the reading, I want people to look at your riding the wave. Do not think about you being on the wave. If you start thinking about you being on the wave like a surfer. Think if a surfer was thinking, I'm on a 10 foot wave and if I fell off the surfboard, I'm gonna get crushed and taken down. I could drown. I could bang my head on a rock. All the terrible things that actually, why would a surf even get on a surfboard and surf 10 foot wave, right?

But if they're thinking, that's not why I'm here. I'm not trying to think about what possibly could happen to me. What I'm thinking about is, oh my God, how amazing is this view? How amazing is this feeling? How amazing is this feeling of I'm riding in the barrel of this way and I've never felt anything like this.

And where I'm headed, where I see where I'm going [00:25:00] is actually beautiful.

Robyn: I love that. Know you're being guided in a really exciting direction

Michelle: yeah. 

Robyn: And that visual you gave is huge 

Michelle: because that's how it feels like to me like again, part of that hyper focus that I was feeling in the beginning about so much information, so much happening, so many.

Just crazy things happening in your life, in the worlds and maybe even personally. If we hyper-focus on that and we're not realizing on the larger scale what we're in, right? If the surfer didn't realize what at the bigger picture, what that person was doing, I'm riding this wave and a barrel, like who does that?

If we don't picture that, then we of course are gonna fall. We would of course fall. That's right. It's fear, It's fear. Totally. Yeah. So when you let go and you just be along for the ride, it's actually not that scary. [00:26:00] Yeah, you're taking your power back by doing that too. Yes. But a lot of people think that as being not in control.

But really that is the surrender and the relinquishing of control. Makes you actually feel more empowered. 

Robyn: And it really is then very much tapping into that inner strength. 

Michelle: Yes. And I think that is why, maybe this is hitting in Leo season, It's hitting in a season that's requiring courage.

Yes. I think it's the courage to get up and ride the wave and let it take you. I just pulled some other cards just to see getting that King of Swords with three of wands, and then the six of wands with the five of Swords, and then the justice card with the nine of Wands.

Yeah, this is like a recalibration, the six of wands and the five of swords is right in the heart of the reading. So to me, this is the most important energy for August if we ride the turbulence out, and you just say, this is a [00:27:00] blip, in the scope of things, I'd rather be in Hawaii, so I'll take the turbulences than think that way.

 Don't let yourself get lost this is, know that the present is very tumultuous, so you're look ahead. Okay. Because the other thing I don't know why I'm using surfing maybe 'cause I'm going to Hawaii.

. But the surfer thing really makes sense to me because I used to surf. So I know that you always on a surfboard, you don't look down, you look forward.

Otherwise you will lose your balance and fall. So the idea there is, energetically is about that right now. Don't l That's not where we're supposed to be right now. This is requiring us to get through this phase, and by doing that, you're focusing on this star energy that I see in the distance here with the seven of wands.

Which is you're focusing on the future. You're focusing on where you're [00:28:00] headed, where we're all headed, where we're going. 

 collectively, you're in this beautiful space of realignment. everybody realigning. Yeah. So if that's true, then where we're headed is going to be much better. 

Robyn: when you use the word turbulence, and I also think of tumultuous.

What's on the other side of that is peace. And so if we're collectively thinking about riding that wave of realigning so that we can get to more peace and alignment, that is something to look forward to. 

Michelle: Because this king of swords that's paving the way, I think right now, it's like I'm getting a lot of air and fire.

Okay. Which 

Robyn: is all Stevie talked about, by the way, in the astrology for August, 2025, and also part of July, 2025. So all she talked about was air and fire. So if you haven't listened to Stevie, listen to Stevie's August. Forecast for [00:29:00] 2025.

Michelle: So air and fire is very combustible.

So if you think of those two elements together, we're fanning flames right now, We're fanning flames of change. You wanna look at it that way. And so it's, of course it's gonna get hotter, of course it's gonna get crazier. And of course it's might be hitting these Pentacles of turbulence, all headed in the larger picture to a more beautiful future A balance or rebalancing because when I get the justice card in a reading, anytime, that is a little karmic. And.

I am not getting a very personal read for this August. I'm getting more of this really heavy collective energy that I think Spirit is being super forceful and saying I know it sounds harsh, but there is always this yin yang energy., We have been on this path for a long time, and so we've also developed this karma.

We have to readjust, . So [00:30:00] the world I think at large is not about the taking anymore, It's about the giving. I think Spirit is making that call out and saying, look, you've taken long enough from this beautiful space that we've been given and gifted, and it's time you give back to that.

Robyn: Wow. 

Michelle: I know that's weird message, but, 

Robyn: It's interesting too for those , who haven't listened to Ginette Biro, but she. Also with someone who gave us a whole forecast around the Schumann resonance and the energy of the planet right now. So it's both like the heartbeat of our planet, which is the Schumann resonance and then the energy surrounding it.

It's very similar. From literally an energetic level of the earth. Yeah. And what's around us? You're coming at this through tarot and Stevie also came at it from another perspective, which is astrology, but all very [00:31:00] similar and what you're saying, which I always love, because we talk about connecting the dots for our soul through modalities.

Michelle and I are big into that. But also. This is that for the planet and for the collective? 

Michelle: This feels like spirit being I'm talking to all you right now.

Robyn: also, it's important to remind people we're not talking about what on the news every day and things like that. This is like even bigger. 

Michelle: Even bigger, like yeah. Energetically spiritual energy. Right? That's undefined. Limitless. Mysterious, unknown. And it affects all of us. not just obviously the planet we're living on, but it affects how we are as humans and how we move on. Yeah. And 

Robyn: I often find. That when people are in situations that are turbulent, as you said and cause upheaval, it actually ends up bringing all of us together more in a really beautiful way.

Because when we can see the light in each other, you can see that [00:32:00] spark. And so that is what it almost is forcing us. To do. Yes. And it seems like this month is a really important one to pay attention to that experience and to ride that wave. 

Michelle: Yeah, ride the wave.

Because I don't know if anyone is listening is a surfer or has surfed, but honestly when you do hit. Wave perfectly, and there's no other experience like it because you do feel like you're in complete flow and alignment with everything around you. And I feel like that's the whole purpose here.

That's where we're going. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, so let's go to the very end of August. That hangman seven of wands and then the five of Pentacles. . I'm getting the three of wands twice. So that's telling me already a loud message here about, going from that launching pad, we launched from that tower [00:33:00] and then we're just free, I don't wanna say free falling, but we're like not in control, The three of wands to me, is like a very repetitive card to me saying. We are on this path now there's not a point of return. We're just launched away from this foundation that has been crumbling for a while and we just have to again, ride it out.

It's a really strong message of just ride this out if there's something that's happening that is feeling like a tower just happening to you personally, just ride it out. Because the one thing we can guarantee is probably next month it's gonna be different.

Yeah. 

Robyn: I feel like we're gonna be different people. Yes. Generally, maybe not just even in the month, but that this is seeding that, right? Yes. This is seeding us as people in this lifetime to be different. It reminds me of COVID in many ways. And not to say that this, but it's our foundation was shaken and now five years later we are d.

People, we live differently. We see the world in a different [00:34:00] way. It's that kind of shake. 

Michelle: Yes. It's that kinda shake. So the last part here with this hangman and then the seven of the hangman is that kind of hold. We're holding in. If you think of, again, we're gonna use that sitting in an airplane, going through turbulence.

We don't get up and walk around. You sit in your seat, you probably might freak out a little bit, but you sit in your seat and you just Hold on. Just hold on. we don't need to move. and we can just wait a minute. So I think this whole month.

The courage to just ride things out. The courage to just surrender to the wave, the courage to just not fight the turbulence and just be along with it for a moment, For at least this month. We don't know what's gonna happen next month, but for at least this month is what is required, because the the seven of [00:35:00] wands with this Queen of Pentacles.

Now I see this, we're getting, since we're gonna be moving into Virgo in September. That's Earth Energy. So I think it's saying, it's almost like a don't worry, don't worry, it's gonna stabilize, it's like the pilot saying, we're going through a little turbo and said, everyone take a seat and don't worry, in about five minutes we'll be all good and we'll turn that light back on.

Then you can use the restroom. It's pretty much the pilot saying that, I think it's like just, you're okay, Just don't freak out. If you don't freak out in August, this is the best way to be. and the end, the five of Pentacles.

Two of the 10 of cups. So this is a really interesting ending. We talked about in the tarot 2025 forecast that these big highlight markers for me was so important. We had the ten the first three months, and then we had the 10 of cups. In the second quarter, in the 10 of Pentacles in the third quarter, now we are in the third quarter here, We're supposed to make all of that stuff a [00:36:00] reality, 10 of Pentacles was about the realness of believing in this future to be abundant, what we want success all the things that we wanna create in our 3D life. We had to believe it first for it to exist, Now I know why this tower was here at the beginning of this month is because the five of Pentacles is an absolute call out to say, spirit says you didn't believe.

Wow. And you're not believing. Holy crap. So we're gonna back you up a second. We're gonna remind you about this. If you stay in the energy of not believing this, 10 of cups can be real. It's gonna keep not being real.

 Everybody, We gotta believe. We believe to believe. Believe the future is brighter, not darker. Believe that the change is for the good, not the worst. Believe that where you're headed is [00:37:00] brighter. And spirit's my God, how do we not do this the first time? 

Robyn: And it's all the things you said and see the light in others so that you can see the light that is all around you and is especially in front of you.

Michelle: And that again, I'm going to just end with this surfer on the surfboard when the surfer hits that wave and is finally flowing and feels the awe and the beauty of what is actually happening.

I'm in a wave. I'm in it.. That is the resonance we're supposed to be at. We live in a beautiful, wonderful world. Why aren't we seeing that spirit's like, why aren't you seeing that? 

Robyn: and that is, it is possible for you to see it.

And to feel it. And that's the opportunity. That the universe is reminding us, 

Michelle: strongly reminding now I think we missed the Mark A. Little bit in the second [00:38:00] quarter. 

Robyn: Wow. That was powerful. And I just want to hold everybody's hand right now and say it's gonna be okay.

Hold on. Ride that wave. This is all a blip if we can believe. Thank you. Thank you, Michelle. You're welcome. That was sobering. 

Michelle: It is a little sobering. 

Robyn: Yes it is. 

Michelle: But for the greater good, right?

Like, if you never question the spirit and the collective energy, think of all of our higher selves, Knowing the right and wrongs of things and what can be and would be because we're in a non-linear, energies, right? We're in dimensions that we don't even know.

The collective always has our highest good. As the guidance, right? Always knows where we're going is better, . And this is just, I think, a really loud reminder. 

Robyn: I think it is a huge reminder. if people want to work with you, Michelle, they can email you. At m at mt nolan, [00:39:00] NOLA n.com. You can also find Michelle in our community. We have a private community.

You can go to seeking center community.com and you can find out how to get involved there. We also, this month in August, Michelle and myself, Stevie Calista, who we mentioned, who is an astrologer, and Lizzie Cutler, who is an energy healing practitioner. And Intuitive. And Karen, my co-host,, we will be doing a live virtual event on August 25th.

. It's all about connecting the dots in your own life, which is something that we talked about during this episode, and you can also, find that by going to Instagram and going to at the Seeking Center and you can find the link to that there.

There are so many ways to get involved and stay riding that wave. We're here to remind you all of this month, so reach out if you have any questions and [00:40:00] thank you, Michelle. You're welcome. Thank you.