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From Solar Flares to Soul Shifts: What Mt. Shasta and the Schumann Resonance Are Telling Us (Ginette Biro) - Episode 181

• Robyn Miller Brecker, Karen Loenser, Ginette Biro • Season 2 • Episode 181

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Ever feel like you're totally off and can’t explain why? There’s a lot happening on a cosmic level — and one of our favorite multidimensional mediums, Ginette Biro (she’s clairaudient, clairvoyant, clairsentient and claircognizant!), is back to break it all down.

From intense solar flares to planetary retrogrades, the New Moon in Leo to energetic ascension and 3D/5D splits — Ginette channels wisdom from beings in the 4th to 12th dimensions (yes, for real!) and shares what we need to know to stay centered in the swirl.

We’re talking Schumann Resonance shifts, Mount Shasta earth portals, and how YOU can hold your light when things feel dark or wobbly.

This is the deep soul science behind the energy fatigue, the anxiety spikes, and even the random tech glitches. It’s not in your head. It’s in the cosmos. Get ready for a conversation that’s going to shift your perspective, open your heart, and maybe even activate something in your soul.

Listen in for:

  • Why you’re feeling "off" (it’s not just you)
  • Solar flares + geomagnetic storms
  • The Leo New Moon
  • Ascension energy + dimensional shifts
  • Earth portals like Mount Shasta
  • How to ground your energy right now
  • What’s being activated in your soul
  • Ways to move from confusion to clarity

Let’s get you back to YOU — with spiritual context and tools you didn’t even know you needed. You’re not alone. You’re evolving.

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Robyn: [00:00:00] I'm Robyn Miller Brecker and I'm Karen Loenser. Welcome to Seeking Center, the podcast. Join us each week as we have the conversations and we, through the spiritual and holistic clutter for you, we'll boil it down to what you need to know now, we're all about total wellness, which to us needs building a healthy life.

Karen: On a physical, mental, and spiritual level, we'll talk to the trailblazers who'll introduce you to the practices, products, and experiences that may be just what you need to hear about to transform your life. If you're listening to this, it's no accident. Think of this as your seeking center and your place to seek your center.

Robyn: And for the best wellness and spiritual practitioners, experts, products, experiences, and inspo, visit theseekingcenter. com. We're welcoming back the magical, multidimensional, and utterly grounded Ginette Barrow. Ginette is a powerful medium, Clairaudient, clairvoyant, Clairsentient, and Claire cognizant. She hears, sees, feels, and [00:01:00] knows from the higher realms, and she's here to help us decode what's happening with our planet right now.

From the Schumann resonance to Mount Shasta earth portals, galactic energies, and planetary ascension. Today we're diving deep Ginette channels, beings from the fourth to the 12th dimensions and has even crossed over and come back through a near death experience. So when she speaks, we listen. Get ready for a conversation that's going to shift your perspective, open your heart, and maybe even activate something in your soul.

Hi Ginette. 

Ginette: Hi. Thanks so much for that beautiful intro. 

Robyn: Oh, it's so good to be in your presence and see your beautiful face. Likewise. 

Ginette: Missed you so much. Same, it's so much has happened since we last chatted, but it feels like it wasn't that long ago. 

Robyn: Because Soul connection, Yeah, true. Exactly. 

Karen: we started talking before we started to record, so we had to quickly record this because Robyn and I are both saying we are like tired. from your perspective, what the heck going off happening 

Ginette: [00:02:00] Okay. There are several things. So everything right now is really layered. So it's not just one thing happening. So today, in the moment in which we're recording it, we are in the new Moon, So we have the new Moon and Leo is like really expressive and outspoken and there's fiery energy to Leo and it wants to be seen.

And so it's a new moon and there's a lot of things that are wanting your attention and wanting you to pay attention to and it'll do that. In a way of sometimes frustrating you, right? Like fire can sometimes burn. It's not just a gentle breeze, It's not a trickle of water. It's something that's gonna be an ouch at one point.

And that can be a good thing, but it can also really trigger us too. So there's a really interesting high frequency energy right now, which can cause a big drain or cause anxiety. So for some people, if they just woke up and they're like, I have this anxiety. I don't know why. The moon is a big part of that.

Now, in addition to that though, we also have several planets in [00:03:00] retrograde. I know Mercury's in retrograde right now. I think Saturn might be, I'm not an astrologer but I know that there are several right now, and so that's. That's this energy of like forward momentum that got turned around a little bit for us to look at things again.

So there's this weird, like you're feeling momentum, but you're also feeling something pulled back and it's very confusing. Yeah. So then we have this kinda level of like confusion. Then the next level we have is we're just coming out of the solar peak of our solar cycle right now. So we have a solar cycle every 11 years.

The sun goes through a cycle where it is more gentler, and then it peaks into high flare geomagnetic storm activity, and it comes down again. We are just, July, 2025 was the peak of this solar cycle. Solar cycle number 25, and this. The amount of solar flares and geomagnetic storms also have a huge impact on our body, on our electromagnetic field, our aura, So when the sun is [00:04:00] sending flares and there's a bunch of auroras in the sky, we're also feeling that too, which can cause a lot of shift in change in our own body energy from fatigue to totally energized and like overly energized and don't know what to do with it. Then on top of that, so again, layers like we're talking about a layered cake here.

We then also specifically right now in this week, my guides had told me at the beginning of the week that we were entering into an energy of like low density pushback and what's happening is as we are rapidly ascending right now, like we are growing and ascending significantly in leaps and bounds every week, every month.

And if you think about your consciousness in January to now, most people are gonna say, I have evolved, but you just have, right? Most people, because we are moving in leaps and bounds. And so what's happening with that is if I use the analogy of the 3D five D split that a lot of people talk about, we used to have 3D and [00:05:00] five D consciousness really sitting side by side, So A 3D consciousness is more kind of a density consciousness. Known parameters, this is how life is, this is what we do. Very science-based. Five D is more out of the box thinking, stepping into the realms of spirit, opening up to what else could there be? How else could I be? And awakening, so they used to be side by side, but now they're very much like a zipper, like they're starting to zip apart. And as they continue to zip apart, we're seeing a greater separation in five D thought frequency to 3D thought frequency. And we can see that in various places around the planet where there is, for example, a very big war mentality is A 3D versus a what can we do different mentality, which is a five D thought, So the fact that they're pulling farther away. Is a good thing in one sense, but it also creates a greater swing between the two [00:06:00] sometimes. And so what's happening right now is we're getting a big swing of the 3D sort of lower density energy coming through. Like a bull in a China shop.

And Spirit was like, what we need to do is try and keep our vibrations, our thought patterns higher. Still observing what's happening, but see the higher picture, see the higher perspective. Choose what you wanna do about it versus being caught in it because it's, another way to explain it would be like there's there's like flooding waters coming in of lower density energy.

So do you wanna swim in those or do you wanna get up, to the next floor or on the roof so you don't have to get wet? So we have all of those layers happening right now, and we have the Schumann resonance, which is the Earth is doing so much. Mother Gaia, I did a channel message from her just a couple weeks ago, and she's reached a threshold of not being able to hold together the cracks and the energy where she now has to release these cracks, which are causing more earth [00:07:00] events.

 Not in a way that she wants to see the demise of people, but she's I can no longer hold this disharmonic frequency. And those cracks can be represented by those that are pillaging the earth, we'll just say non thoughtful mining or clear cutting and stuff. She can't hold the frequency of the destruction of the planet anymore, so she has to let some of it go.

So we're seeing more events like floods and earthquakes and tornadoes and all of this with because of the amount of manipulation that's been happening, right? So the Schumann resonance is also activating a lot to try and awaken people too. So that's why I say it's a layered cake, And I say it's a layered cake because we could look at this and think bad, but really. This is what transformation is, and we are here to transform. And to transform, we have to break down what was and create something entirely new, right? Like when you put a cake in the oven, you are putting in liquid, you put all these pieces together, you throw it in the [00:08:00] liquid, it has to transform into the bubbles that help it rise into a yummy, squishy, solid, right?

So it's a transformation right now. That is so 

Robyn: true. 

Karen: So helpful because for those of us who can truly feel it, can I just ask one quick follow up on that? Between the , five D and the 3D, can people literally feel caught in between? 

Ginette: Absolutely. and that's a great question.

Sometimes you'll find some parts of your life you're able to hold in five D, Like maybe your outlook on your personal health and fitness is very five D. You're in tune with your body. You listen to it, you nourish it in how it needs and it's working for you. Whereas your job might be very 3D where you're stuck in a rut.

You have to listen to a boss that does not care, a thing about you, but demands everything, and you're stuck. So you're living in two. So it takes a while. And there is like a pendulum swing between the two sometimes as well, right? Like maybe the time at work where you stand up to your.

Boss speak [00:09:00] about your truth, you step into a five D frequency in speaking to them, But then until you leave there, you're probably not gonna get out of the 3D. So sometimes we can live predominantly in five D, but again, when it's spliting, like when it's happening, we're having to negotiate these different aspects of ourselves and choose where they're gonna be.

And so there's a process to that too. 

Robyn: And just to remind everyone, which you've probably heard us talk about many times on this podcast, but we are made of energy. So since we're made of energy, all of this is why it impacts us so much, right? So whether it is the solar flares or it. The energy from the planet, or it's the energy from Mother Earth, our energy speaking to all of those energies.

I just wanna remind people we forget that, within these bodies, we are made up of energy. 

Karen: That is a great reminder. Yes. Yeah. 

Robyn: And just going back also to the Shumann resonance. If you [00:10:00] search for the Schumann residence for the day, you can find it and you will see what Ginette is talking about in terms of this spikes of mother earth's energy.

And it was one of the reasons we felt really compelled to reach out to Ginette. Because we were like, what is going on? And we don't know how to explain it. Ginette can do a much better job than we can. But you can also see it for yourself. There is data that you can actually, physically see. And then you're most likely feeling you're, 

Ginette: yeah, definitely feeling. I think so many people now are feeling it. When the Schumann is really spiking. And to explain a little bit more, the Schumann resonance is like, the heartbeat of earth is one good way to see it, So if it's really spiking, she's having a higher heart rate, so to speak, If it's calm, she's having a lower heart rate. Higher doesn't mean bad, it just usually means something is shifting, right? And really it's measuring the the energetic activity between Earth and the ionosphere. That's how they measure it through [00:11:00] these spikes and stuff. But it is very responsive to the ascension of humanity on the planet right now because humanity has a big hold on the planet. And it's also though, been really helpful in giving us these understandings of when the earth is pushing more frequency through for us.

To transform and they often kind of correlate in this really neat musical dance between solar flares and the human resonance. So sometimes I see it as like a melody being played between the two of them, sandwiching humans in between to sometimes give them upgrades from top down or sometimes from bottom up.

Karen: Oh, I love that so much. Wow, that's such a great visual. And humans are little cords in the middle influencing some of that as well. 'cause I'm thinking as you're talking how the poor planet there's so many more people on this planet now than there's ever been. Of course it's having an impact and I think how little We remember that the planet [00:12:00] earth is a life force of itself. It's just such a beautiful reminder and I love the visual that you just gave us, Ginette. 

Ginette: 'Cause all planets, like in all galaxies and star systems have consciousness. 

Karen: Yeah. 

Ginette: And sometimes we're like yeah.

Mother Gaia. Yeah. Yeah. But like the same way in which we inhabit a body. We have a consciousness and there's tons of microbes in amoeba, like things having their own existence on our body. The same thing is happening on the earth. And I know the first time, for those of you listening that are like, what?

I get it because I remember the first time I came across planetary consciousness and I was like, I am talking to a planet. I'm talking to a star system. Are you kidding me? And, but yeah, like it's it's an actual thing. And in the conversation that I had with Mother Earth a while back she actually told me that she's not the very first incarnation of this planet.

That there was actually a more masculine frequency that brought the planet [00:13:00] from its molten stage into its kind of cooled stage, and then walked in a feminine energy that has carried Mother Gaia for a long time. Which 

nothing: what had no idea. That is 

Karen: so 

Robyn: cool. 

 This always happens when we talk to you.

Karen: Ginette, do you have, in your conversations with Mother Gaia Is she giving you any inclination is the shift on 3D and five D helping her at all, maintain that calibration of the planet? Or do you feel like it's gonna continue to, transform?

 In more overt ways than we've even seen. 'cause we've seen a lot of transformation particularly this year. Yeah. 

Ginette: So she, last time I chatted with her, which was just a couple weeks ago, she said there's about a six month window right now where there's still gonna be a lot of earth activity. It doesn't mean the earth activity is just gonna stop after that either.

'cause there are shifts and changes, but it's going to feel heightened the next [00:14:00] while. And again, it's like she's been trying to hold these again. She showed it like cracks. She's been trying to hold them together. it's if you had hands and legs on different icebergs and you're trying to hold them together, but they're getting too far apart and you're like, I just can't anymore.

She's been trying to hold those cracks together of the 3D and she can't anymore, and so to let go of those. Creates this release of 3D earthly things. 

Her energy though is very much five D, if not higher. And so she's been also holding the frequency of trying to anchor us into five D consciousness.

 So it's this delicate balance that she's been trying to maintain. And there was a sadness in her energy when talking about having to let go of these cracks. And it was really interesting because a lot of people in a more sciencey community talk about like Mother Nature is a force to reckon with, which Absolutely.

But they see it as just cause and effect. 

 

Ginette: And the energy of Mother Earth has deep [00:15:00] reverence and deep love for every single plant animal, human rock. The water, the elements that make her kind of like us, right? We pay attention to our hair, we pay attention to our skin, we pay attention to what we eat.

it's the same thing. And so for her to see a whole bunch of her planet decimated in all of the ways humans included is heartbreaking. we don't feel happy when we break a bone or we get an infection. We're like, oh no. She has so much more compassion and energy that a lot of people are just completely oblivious And it's never mother nature's wrath, because it's never like we wanna be unleashing the wrath on ourselves. It doesn't happen that way. So I feel like that narrative has to shift a little bit. But about six months though there's a six month window still of, greater intensity, which is just like the after effects of her releasing her attempts to hold these cracks together. 

Robyn: And that whole visual that you are giving us of this almost like a v. [00:16:00] 3D and five D. 

Moving away from each other, but in that, moving away from each other the differences that you can see and feel right now along with all of these other energy shifts that are going on.

Both from. Above and below. it's quite a time to be a human on this planet and a soul on the planet because we're really in the midst of the feeling. And I think if you're listening to this podcast, you're somebody who is feeling it. You're curious enough to wanna understand what's going on and having the understanding does help.

that when you wake up and you're feeling a certain way or you're triggered by something you either hear or by somebody else's actions that or know of, you can see it in this bigger perspective at least and to your point, choose to rise above.

Ginette: Yeah. And that's what Mother Earth and our spirit guides the galactic that's why they're wanting to bring so [00:17:00] much more knowledge to people. That's why there's more people tapping in, more people channeling, more people sharing messages and intuiting stuff is because knowledge really is power.

And just like you said, Robyn, like if you wake up and you feel the anxiety. It's a new moon. Right away you can be like, I don't need to take this personally as a, like I'm bad or I'm this, that, or whatever. You can be like, oh, the moon energy, and then choose to work with it. And so a lot of spirits messages this year have been like, don't take this personally, oof. It's happening. Don't take it on. Choose what you're gonna do. Don't take it on. Yeah. 

Robyn: And I wanna also say for those who are listening right now, when we talk about the New Moon, and this will post on July 29th.

That new moon that we're talking about when we're taping on July 24th, that energy will last for the next several weeks. So you're gonna feel it. And it's not just one day is what I'm trying to get people to understand who may not be [00:18:00] as familiar with how the energy of the moon in these kind of phases works.

Karen: All right. We're just so excited to hear. Robyn and I talk all the time about how we are so called to go to Mount Shasta, you just got back.

 From there, we are fascinated by the idea that they're. Could potentially be a portal there. Oh yeah. Tell us about your experience. Tell us what you felt. Tell us what you know. 

Ginette: Ah, Mount Shasta, my gosh. I have a big love for Mount Shasta. I have been to different spiritual energies around the world, and surprisingly, Mount Shasta had.

The most powerful energy I have felt so far. Wow. Which I didn't expect. I expected it to have an energy, but I didn't expect for it to be so intense. Maybe that was just my own personal experience, but Mount Shasta was next level like it was. So when we first got there. I could feel my energy ramp up right [00:19:00] away.

And it felt very similar to when I go into a reading, a medium ship reading or channeling, I turn on my upper chakras and just ramp them right up, right? Turn that dial right up. And that was happening uncontrollably as we drove up as soon as we could see the mountain and we got closer, my energy went up and I was like, okay, whoa, this is like super powerful.

I'm gonna have a good sleep tonight and then I'll be grounded and ready to go. I. Barely slept. I could not ground the energy. It was like I sat in a reading for hours all night, which like if, that's insane, And so it took me the next morning going on this long, two hour fast hike around a lake to ground part of it, ' cause my body reacted so much to the high vibe energy.

And it was amazing. And so then later that day, I sat in the sun and I was just facing the mountain, which is just glorious. Like you stare at this mountain with awe and reverence and I love mountains. I've seen [00:20:00] lots of mountains. I'm sure you all have too. And they're beautiful and they're wonderful.

But this mountain has an energy it's like it greets you, And so I was sitting there, I closed my eyes and as soon as I closed my eyes. I instantly connected into these beings that called themselves Now, I know there's a lot of talk about the city of telos, which is under the mountain.

Some people say it's under the mountain where Lumerian or Atlantian they called themselves Telosian beings are in a higher dimension, but they also told me that they are on on top of the mountain, but in a much higher dimension. So we don't see them. And they were these really beautiful, tall iridescent luminous beings with kind of an elongated skull and really skinny necks, but like really tall, not creepy in any way.

Beautiful. And I was just watching them milling around going through their day. And they welcomed me into the light energy there. There was so much like light energy and. [00:21:00] Rainbow color energy as well, is how I could explain it. And basically it was having opportunities to connect in with them several different ways.

And for me specifically, which I didn't realize, was through water. And so I've always been like a water baby. Love the water, put me in a lake that's not freezing cold and I'm happy. And so anyways, they had given me a message that I would connect into something through the water. And we went swimming that day.

And I actually even did a video from this lake. We went swimming and I get in the water and I'm waiting to connect and nothing really happens. And so we swim out to this log in the middle of the lake and we have this beautiful experience of watching dragonfly, larvae swim up to the log, come out, crack out of their shell, expand their wings, and completely rebirth, which was amazing. Oh my goodness. Amazing. That's cool. Yes. And we had like nature come alive there. We [00:22:00] had butterflies sitting with us in our lunch. We had a bee that came and sat beside the butterfly on a rock right beside us, and then a duck came up and sat right beside us. We had three.

Beautiful little beings to sit with us. So nature was alive and I'm like, the water is gonna talk to me. And I got nothing. I got nothing in the water. And he was like, what? I don't understand this, because they said I would really connect through water, so whatever, no big deal. Later that night, I'm in the shower and where we were staying was on this, it was like.

Near the mountain you could see the mountain, but this was kinda like on its own little mountain. It was beautiful. And I turn on the shower and if you know me, if you know my story, baths and showers are where I get a ton of information. I turn on the shower and suddenly I hear this tone and when you're in the shower sometimes it can just make a tone, right?

It can be right. Yeah. It wasn't that I hear this tone. I'm like, okay, maybe it's the shower. Then I hear another harmonic tone on top of it. So now I've got two notes playing, but in [00:23:00] harmony, and I'm like, that's interesting. Then I start to hear a third one and I start to hear other ones start to play a melody while in the water.

And I'm not in a meditative state nobody else is awake anymore. And I'm like, oh my God, I hear. Water and a full on meditative music experience. If you picked a most beautiful meditation with sounds and high notes, and low notes and pauses and breaths and harmonies, like a full on piece of music was playing through the water.

And I just, stood in there and I just had the biggest smile on my face, and I listened for 10 minutes. I just listened to this beautiful. Tonal information coming through the water. And basically after that I did double check with my roommates there. If anybody was playing any music and one was already sleeping, one had no music on at all.

And what was so cool is. There was so many messages in this water that the tones [00:24:00] brought it into my consciousness, and then my consciousness brought it into understandings about light and about frequency, and about the so like Shasta was unbelievably powerful, so powerful. The Sound Bowl meditations we went to were so powerful.

It was just, it was just magical. It was absolutely magical and so alive, so incredibly alive there. Like the energy doesn't stop. It felt like getting into a pool that you are not getting out of for a week. So then coming back from Shasta with all these openings and conversations I had with guides and time spent in Pluto's Cave and all this it's taken me like a good five days to recalibrate my energy.

'cause coming home like it, wired my nervous system like no other. But now my nervous system runs with this new kind of purple frequency that I can see like buzzing [00:25:00] through it, which again allows me to connect with different consciousness. 

Robyn: Does it allow you to continue to connect with that energy?

is there something where it almost integrated with you so that you can connect in? 

Ginette: Yeah, full on recalibration and like a further connection point. And specifically through water. Like the energy that can channel through water is even more so than it was before, which also connects into those beings as well.

'cause those beings they are in the energy around Shasta, but their energy, just like spirit is not limited to. Physical location. So 

Robyn: now that you have the frequency, you can connect into them. 

And what would you say they want us to know on a very high level?

Oh, 

Ginette: One thing is that there's this beautiful synergistic transformation happening right now. Where it does bring in the energy of earth, does bring in the energy of cosmos and humanity together in this sort of like trinity trifecta piece of ascension, [00:26:00] and that our ascension is happening all together versus just humans ascending like it's.

 Everything is so much more connected. And so it, ties into how we're stepping up into this more galactic level of consciousness, how more people are gonna be channeling, how more people are gonna be intuiting things like we're hitting our next level in our ascension process through this year. This year has been a huge change maker.

It hasn't been easy. But we're stepping into different ways of understanding different for example, understanding spiritual messages. That come through water in tones and music. does that make sense? But it does. Yeah. So we're breaking boundaries.

Wow. 

Karen: I wanna know the name of the hotel in the room number. You can book that room. 

Ginette: Oh my God. I know. and I think though, for anyone, I think no matter where you're staying in Shasta, as long as you can. go to Panther Meadows, which is right at the base of the mountain [00:27:00] drink from, okay, here's the thing.

Everybody. Do as you wish, follow what feels right for you. This is simply my experience. Okay. This is my little caveat, but Panther Meadows has. This absolute sacred mother earth energy. And you can also drink from the natural spring that runs through it. So then you're getting the sacred water from the mountain that contains so much light frequency plus higher consciousness.

And if you tap into that and you stare at the mountain, you're going to gain something, an insight, an understanding, a release. They have these beautiful labyrinths right at the base of the mountain too, that you can walk around.

so much has been set up to be so sacred, so specific, so intentional that it doesn't matter where you stay. If you go to the mountain will. Invite you in if you are pure of heart. If your intention is pure of heart, it doesn't mean you have to be a perfect human. I'm not a perfect human right.

But if your intention is of a [00:28:00] full heart, the mountain will invite you in and you will have your experience with it for you. 

Robyn: When we talk about these portals and Mount Shasta being a powerful portal 

How would you explain that to people who are listening 

Karen: And can I just add to something to that? 'cause it's that was my exact question too. I've heard that planet Earth has chakras Yes. And that Mount Shasta is one of them. Can you speak to that as well? Yeah. 

Ginette: So I'm just gonna ask Spirit how to explain this. Okay. 'cause they're showing me lots of different images, Okay, so the planet has like if we talk about the seven chakras of our body, or seven main chakras, the planet does have different points that reflect those chakras. There are also, just like on our bodies, we have many smaller chakra points, Like different meridians and nodes and things on our bodies.

 There are also so many different meridians and nodes on the planet, which are vortexes. Which are portals, So Mount Shasta [00:29:00] is one of those. And it holds because of the lay lines. There's lay lines as we see it scientifically. People have talked about lay lines that are specifically placed around the planet that create these sort of like triangulation points.

There's also though, which is interesting, this came up in Shasta too. this moving. Serpentine energy that moves through the planet. Now, when people think serpent, they think snake, they think bad, but that's actually not the case. The serpentine energy is like free flowing, undulating kind of feminine energy that is not rigid in structure.

So we have lay lines, but then we also have the serpentine energy and the serpentine energy moves across every continent, and it does move through Shasta is what they showed me as well. So you do also have. This powerful grid line, which we could maybe say is more of a masculine, as well as the serpentine, which is a feminine.

So there's a big balance in Shasta, like some sacred sites have a strong masculine energy, some have a strong [00:30:00] feminine energy. Shasta's very balanced in my understanding. And that's what makes it so significant for people because it can be healing, it can be awakening, it can be. Cleansing. it can be so many different things depending on what you're needing.

 Wow. 

Karen: We're still going. We 

Ginette: are. You have to go. It's so good. 

Robyn: . Oh my goodness. I feel like we've been learning so much this.

Really that helps. For me, it gives me a better understanding of the why right now, of what I personally am feeling and what I see around me. And when you look around and you're talking to others and you're hearing about other people's stories or what is going on in the world, having this understanding of.

What our literal planet is going through and the energy surrounding it can really help you on a day-to-day basis, I think. Yeah, 

Ginette: I think it can too. And I [00:31:00] think that's something that if we really actually take that statement into account, like I think a lot of people are like, yeah yes. But it's no, knowledge is power.

Knowledge gives you choices of what you wanna do with. Pieces. And we need to see knowledge as the many different ways we can gain that knowledge too. It's not always just knowledge we are told. It's also knowledge of what we experience. It's knowledge of what we intuit. It's knowledge of what like, spirit's bringing through so much stuff for people right now too.

So I think we have to bring in all of the aspects of knowledge plus our own known wisdom in how we discern that. 

Robyn: that's very important. 

Karen: it's true. 

Robyn: Would you say that there are any practices or rituals that people can use right now to ground themselves or to better connect in both with the energy and their bodies that you can suggest? 

Ginette: Yeah. So that's a fair point. My guides are like, go with the times. [00:32:00] The times are this awakening into light and sound. So if we use just sound right now, one way that is very simple for people to ground. If some people struggle to meditate or like grounding into the earth, like they just can't feel it or see it.

Music. What is your grounding music? And it doesn't even matter what kind it is, right? it could be really good bass drum type music. Others, it might be classical music, whatever, like use music to amplify your energy, your chosen energy. So are you wanting to amp up use music to do it? 'cause the tones and frequencies will do that.

If you wanna ground use whatever music is grounding for you. Like for me, a really grounding music is actually drumming. 

 Like drumming is very grounding for me. It's that like heavy bass note beat that helps pull me down versus meditative music that's ground your energy, I'm gone. I'm way up here.

So it's determining what it is for you, but sound, they're saying sound is like [00:33:00] such a potent frequency for our times now 

Robyn: and you can. Also look up different frequencies. If you wanted to try outside of, other music, you can look up what is the frequency of earth, what is the frequency of sleep.

You can find those, which may be another alternative too. 

Ginette: What's actually also really potent is humming so we can listen to sound audibly outside of us. But when we actually use sound coming from within us, it is the most grounding for the body because we're creating it from the inside out.

nothing: And 

Ginette: so sometimes, if you're feeling really up here, like really stressy anxiety, like start humming and not for the sake of musicality, but just for the sake of what feels right, what are you called to right now? And you might be surprised. It's just a really low single note, or it might be like three different notes that you just sing in repetition, but bringing the [00:34:00] sound from within first is probably the most powerful versus anything external.

Robyn: that's good. I feel like I needed that reminder. 

Karen: I think I'm gonna try humming in the shower now. Yeah. Oh my gosh. 

Robyn: Yes. Absolutely. Interesting you brought that up too. 'cause we haven't had a conversation about this, but we will in the future about light language and it's interesting when you think about humming and it being grounding, but there's probably codes or something in whatever.

Feels natural to you at that moment? because light language has codes in that melody. And it may not make sense to you in the 3D, but there's a part of you that it will most likely connect in. 

Ginette: Yeah. Even think of like women birthing. Most women birthing will make noises.

And we just think, oh, they're making noises 'cause they're uncomfortable. But they're actually also innately tuning into a frequency that is either releasing the pain point or That's right. Expressing it. Or calming the nervous system. [00:35:00] women in labor make often low moy type sounds and it's so primal, but it's soothing to the nervous system.

It's soothing to the body it's coming from within. That's so true. So we already do this. 

Robyn: We do, and most of the time, I know in most of the yoga classes that I've taken, at the end, you ohm. Yeah. and there's frequency in that ohm that grounds you into whatever practice you just did and leaves you in a more peaceful state when you're leaving.

Karen: Yeah, absolutely. Ginette, thank you so much. This will help us navigate, but it's also help clarify. 

Robyn: Yes. 

Karen: So much of what we've been experiencing, because we've been saying time feels weird, we feel tired. Just all of the things that are not quote unquote normal. And yet we as the collective group are saying, yeah, me too.

Yeah, me too. It just really helps. And thank you Robyn, for the reminder that we're all energy. 'cause I know we forget that and that how impactful [00:36:00] the all that energy that's going on around us really can be so 

Robyn: yeah. Ginette, thank you. You have so much knowledge within and all around you and so we're grateful that you are willing to share it with us and everybody listening or watching and you can get more from Ginette.

On her YouTube channel and also following her on social. has so much content. She's pretty much updating things on a daily basis.

Ginette: Monday to Friday, I do. 

Robyn: Yeah. And so there's so much to learn and better understand about yourself and what's going on by tuning in to Ginette's channel,

Ginette: It's just Ginette by medium on any of those. And then the website is Avalon spirit, so 

Robyn: Perfect. So go follow and tune in to Ginette and we can't wait to collaborate again. Talk again soon so that we can get our download of what's going on.

Thank you so much. 

Ginette: [00:37:00] Ah, thanks for having me. It's been so great.