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When Everything Changes: Rebuilding Life After Loss - Episode 133

• Robyn Miller Brecker, Karen Loenser, Jaime Breeze • Season 2 • Episode 133

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In the blink of an eye, life can change in ways we never see coming. One of our Seeking Center go-to guides, Animal Communicator and Spiritual Medium Jaime Breeze, recently faced a life-altering event when her home and almost everything she owned were lost in a forest fire. Her community of Jasper in the Canadian Rockies endured one of the area’s most significant fires in a century, leaving behind widespread destruction.

While Jaime's grief for "what was" is profound, her resilience and unwavering faith are nothing short of inspiring. Her journey of navigating sudden change and loss can offer a fresh perspective on how we face challenges in our own lives.

Whether you’ve experienced a personal upheaval or simply struggled with unexpected shifts, Jaime’s story offers insights into finding strength when life feels uncertain.

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Robyn: And for the best wellness and spiritual practitioners, experts, products, experiences, and inspo, visit theseekingcenter. com In the blink of an eye, life can change in ways we never see coming. One of our Seeking Center go to guides, animal communicator and spiritual medium, Jaime Bree recently faced a life altering event when her home and almost everything she [00:01:00] owned were lost in a forest fire. Her community of Jasper In the Canadian Rockies endured one of the area's most significant fires in a century, leaving behind widespread destruction.

While Jaime's grief for what was is profound, her resilience and unwavering faith are nothing short of inspiring. Her journey of navigating sudden change and loss can offer a fresh perspective on how we face challenges in our own lives. Whether you've experienced a personal upheaval or simply struggled with unexpected shifts, Jaime's story offers insights into finding strength when life feels uncertain.

Let's dive into this important conversation together. 

Jaime: Hi, Jaime. Hi, Robyn. Hi, Karen. Thanks for having me today. 

Karen: we're just so happy to see you here. You've been Thank you. Quite the journey. 

Robyn: Everything happened on July 22nd of 2024. And even since then, I know we've talked several times and you're always in a different place because you're trying to figure this out. what we'd love to [00:02:00] do is to start from the beginning. What happened? 

Jaime: So the 22nd was like any other normal day the past few years, our weather has been changing in where I live, it's been getting really hot and dry, and I remember that week thinking, I thought my front gate was broken, but then I realized it was swollen from heat, like wouldn't shut.

 And then, so the 22nd, I tried to take my dog, Breeze, out for a walk to a lake that we just feel so connected to. And we parked my truck, and she wouldn't walk. And I was very confused. I was like, why aren't you walking? And I kept pulling her on the leash, and I don't like doing that. And I was like, okay, maybe there's a grizzly bear around the corner which does happen sometimes where I live, and she's a little nervous.

said to my dog, I said, okay, Breeze. Babe this is our only chance to get out tonight. I guess we'll just wait for tomorrow. And then I went back home, my partner Colin, ily, they're doing our normal things, and I was washing a cup at the sink, and I remember smelling smoke. And I was [00:03:00] like, oh, that's odd because it smells different than normal.

And I live in the Rocky Mountains, so it's not uncommon for us to smell smoke because there's always forest fires in the west and then it blows into our valley, right? So it's very common for the sky to be filled with smoke or you smell smoke on a regular summer day. And then the weather just started changing and There was a big windstorm, and the wind, again, we're in a certain valley and we have weather patterns, and the wind came from a different direction than normal, and I looked out on the street and it was blowing people's hats off, and I laughed.

I was like, what is going on? And then I saw garbage flowing down the street, which is, we're in a national park we're very careful with our garbage, so it was just awful. An odd thing to see. And I said to my partner, Colin, there's like this crazy wind storm. Things just look different.

And I grew up in tornado alley in Southwestern Ontario and Canada. It goes all the way down into Texas and stuff. So I've been in numerous tornadoes in my life and , [00:04:00] my childhood home was destroyed in the tornado.

And. So I've always recognized when there's something weird happening. There's something weird, the birds stop chirping, all this stuff. And so I called my dad in Ontario and I was like, dad, there's something weird happening here. I don't know. And him and I were just chit chatting. I think I was having a glass of wine.

And then I got a text message from one of my girlfriends On the other side of Canada. And she said to me, there's a fire at a campground just south of us. She saw it on someone's Facebook. One of her friends was camping there and they posted, Oh my gosh, there's a fire. And she saw it on the other side of Canada.

Wow. And alerted me. And I said to my partner, I'm like, Colin there's a fire at Ubaso Campground. And at the same time, the girl who lives in my basement texted me and she's did you hear that there's a fire at our transfer station, which is on the east? And I was like, no. So we have three ways out of our community, [00:05:00] east, south, and west.

Now there's a fire at the south and a fire at the east, and we are in a very remote community. Our nearest village is 80 kilometers away to the east, So kept on my phone and looking for updates from the municipality and everything and I was like, Super calm with everything, and I was like in my living room window, and I was just seeing horse trailers speeding by, like people were taking their horses from the riding stables out, and then I was seeing all these RVs, all the people packing up their RV, and they're like, get out of the Dodge now kind of thing.

And I was just like, okay I guess I'm just going to go to bed. I have a big day with clients tomorrow. I'm really tired. And then my friend called me. She's I'm at the gas station and there's 40 cars in front of me right now trying to fill up. And I was like, Oh boy. And then instantly we got an alert saying there's a state of emergency, we all have to [00:06:00] leave.

 I called my girlfriend because she was home alone with her two boys, her husband was away overseas, and I wanted to let her know hey, pack up the boys they're probably sleeping, because they're only one in three or four, and she wasn't answering. And so I said to Colin, I'm like, we have to go get my friend Julianne and make sure she's aware of this.

And so Colin, every summer, very responsible, unlike me, always has a big Rubbermaid full of like our documents, like passports, pet medicine, whatever, emergency stuff, right? So he threw that in the truck and then it was pushing 40 Celsius, which is I'm not sure what that is in Fahrenheit, but it's hot.

It's like Las Vegas temperatures. And I'm in my pajamas cause I was going to go to bed. And so I was like, I'll just grab my bathing suit because we'll probably park on the side of the road and in the morning I'll go for a swim in the river or whatever and then we'll be back tomorrow, right? And so I grabbed my bathing suit, I grabbed my toothbrush and threw the pets in the car [00:07:00] and we drove to my friend's house which was two blocks away, So we get there and the streets are Pretty normal. And I burst into her house and she just heard that we're in a state of emergency and her kids are sleeping and so she's frantically trying to pack and then the phone alerts go off and it says the fire is going to hit town in five hours.

You must evacuate. And so now I'm grabbing her baby out of the crib and shoving it in the car seat. By this time, it was gridlock traffic. . We moved probably one meter. In two hours. What time was this? This was about 10pm at night. Because we're north, it doesn't get really dark until after 11 in July.

But the sky started turning dark because of the smoke. And So all I could think about was what happened in Lahaina last year because I was religiously Keeping up with Lahaina when that happened. I've been there my heart [00:08:00] was so broken for that community and all the people that were killed in that and just the tragedy behind that and we're sitting in the car and the fire will be here in five hours and I'm like Oh my God.

And then two hours passed and I'm like, okay, the fire is going to be here in three hours. Oh my God. And you're like, , where do we go? Where can we get out? Yeah. And the cell reception was down, so I couldn't call anyone or text anyone. Sometimes it would go through, I had other friends messaging me and they're in gridlock traffic on the other end of town.

And My mom lives on the other side of the country, but I sent her a message anyway, just to say, Hey, you're going to wake up in the morning and you're going to see something really bad on the news. Just know we'll be okay. We'll run if we have to and it took us six and a half hours to get to the nearest town west because mind you, the highway east was closed for a forest fire and the highway south was closed for a forest fire.

So it took us six and a half hours to get there. But When we were sitting in gridlock traffic, [00:09:00] we got another alert saying, oops, we made a mistake. We didn't mean to say the fire is going to be there in five hours. We meant to say, please evacuate within five hours. Yeah. So I don't know who got in trouble for typing that memo wrong or whatever, but it put people into a state of panic.

Yes. , so we're like, okay I cracked a beer in the truck we're like stuck, we might as well have a drink. Maybe we're going to die. So our town has a population, a year round population of 5, 000 people.

We're a tourist community, people come to ski, people come to hike, climb, whatever. So we host hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people. And it's the busiest month and so we have about 5000 permanent residents and then it can go up to 10, 000 in the summer with remote workers, so 25, 000 people were evacuated to the nearest town west, which has a population of 1250. In the middle of the night, by 

Karen: the way. In 

Jaime: the With [00:10:00] babies, children, dogs, cats. Thankfully, one of my best friends lives in that village, and she has a trailer. And she heard about what was going on, and she left work the whole community was like, oh my god, all of Jasper's coming here, we gotta figure this out.

 Thirteen people, Four cats and three dogs slept in her trailer that night and then by morning my in laws rolled up in their RV. There was people sleeping in the ditches. it was wild. It was like a music festival camping thing. That wasn't fun. 

All: Like almost being 

Jaime: like in a war 

Karen: zone 

Jaime: yeah. So we woke up in the morning in like good spirits thinking, okay, This is like a little unimpromptu, not so great getaway and we'll be home maybe tomorrow, and that's how that kind of started, and this town, has one small grocery store, one small liquor store.

So of course everyone's get the beer, get the wine, And what did you have with you? We just had [00:11:00] that bin that packed, and we threw some cash in it like anything we had in our soft drawer or whatever. And then I just grabbed my toiletry bag and I was wearing my pajamas and I grabbed sweater and my bathing suit.

All: Wow. 

Jaime: Yeah, that was really dumb of me. But I found out a lot of people were on the same boat. So Jasper is the gem of the Canadian Rockies, of Canada. It's one of those posters with mountains and turquoise water and waterfalls and rainbows. That's where we live and it looks like that.

It's a place out of a Hollywood movie and we're a UNESCO heritage site. We're a national park. So we're owned and operated by the federal government. So we have this thing, like we're in a Jasper bubble, we live in a snow globe, And you can't pop our bubble. Nothing will happen to us.

If there's a forest fire coming, the federal government's going to throw all the resources, everything at us, So we have that mentality. We're going to be safe 

All: because. 

Jaime: They won't let this happen, because [00:12:00] our community makes 4. 5 million dollars a day in the summer. and town of 5, people Makes 4.

5 million dollars in tourism revenue every day in the summer months 

Karen: And as you said Jaime, there were tourists that were part of this mass exodus too, right? So I can't even imagine someone who didn't even know the area the panic that they must have fell leaving. 

Jaime: Yeah. So a lot of people were at the campgrounds.

So they had to leave everything and just if they had RVs and stuff, they had to just leave the RVs because there was no time to unhook and all that stuff and then just take their cars out. Yeah. So everyone didn't bring stuff. 

Robyn: So then you're there.

And then what happened? how did the information start to trickle into you that it was going to be more than that? 

Jaime: Because we're a small town, you know everyone, But not really, but you're friends with firefighters, you're friends with the paramedics, so they had first responders still in town, You would get personal updates Okay, the fire is now 10 kilometers from town. Now it's 5 kilometers from town. And [00:13:00] so we got through the first day and it was like a somber oh, let's have a drink let's all make dinner together, like 50 people. And then the next day I woke up and I had a really awful feeling.

I was very nervous and very shaky and very unsettled. And I just couldn't get my head in the game. And, when you have those experiences, you're not meaning to cry, but tears are just starting to flow out. And that started happening, and I was like, okay, why am I so unsettled today? We're fine.

We're Jasper. Nothing's going to happen to us. And in the small town, they have a small brewery. There's 10 seats inside, but then there's a big space with like picnic tables all around. Yeah. So very casual. So that was where everyone was congregating. And so like about four, I was like, okay, I'm going to go grab a drink and, see people from my community and get a sense of camaraderie and Hey, yeah, we're okay.

And I was just Not myself, something was wrong and then someone messaged me saying the first [00:14:00] responders are being removed and I started bawling. And then my friend messaged me, whose husband is involved in fire and safety, and she's like, Jaime, the gas station's just exploded.

This is not good. And I just broke down, and then someone else at the picnic table cross got an alert, and that picnic table starts breaking down, and then this person starts screaming over here, and this person starts wailing over here. This person's down on their feet. We were just being notified that our lives were possibly over. 

And so I ran back to the trailer Colin was there and I was just sobbing my goodness. And then he's calm down. And again, I was with so many other people whose houses are in Jasper and it was the epitome of utter despair. And I'm not sure if I ever felt this, but like my whole body got really cold.

All: And 

Jaime: I think it was like, I was reading your parasympathetic, but they're that nervous [00:15:00] system goes into survival mode and I was freezing and my body was like, I went into major convulsions because I couldn't control my body. We were in a pure state of terror. And then you'd get a photo sense of a hotel burning, a coffee shop burning.

And I'm like, my house is right behind there. And that night was awful. It was just, all you could hear is people in the distance like screaming and crying, seeing more photos. And seeing their houses being burnt and destroyed and I never wish that night on anyone.

I never wish that night on anyone. Like I was throwing up. I was so scared. Scared of like absolutely no control over the situation, which No control. And you're just sitting there thinking your life is over, because again, we live in a small community. It's not as if we can move to the subdivision next door or the Hamlet down the road.

There's nowhere else to go. This is our home. This is where our hearts [00:16:00] belong. And the minute I moved to this community 22 years ago, I was like, I'm home. This is where I belong. And so you're just sitting there in a state of fear thinking. What's burning right now? 

And there was some false information that came out. I heard our whole town was gone. So I can't remember if I passed out or not. did fall. I don't know. But I remember being carried to the couch or something like that. And it was just a terrible night.

And I remember looking at Colin and I couldn't even see his soul, if that makes sense, because I was so devastated that I didn't even. think he was human. I can't even describe it. And for a hot minute like half a second, I was like,

I guess we'll jump off a cliff. And I had to take that feeling back because I promised the spirit world and God that I would never take my life. I had a hard time as a teen. And, I thought I was suicidal at one point. And when I came out of that state and I promised I would never, ever consider that [00:17:00] again.

And so for half a second, I thought the only way out is to jump off a cliff 

All: and 

Jaime: then I remembered that promise and I sucked that back in and I snapped out of it and then I could see Colin was My life partner and my, who he was like, it was just this void tunnel of terror and despair. 

Robyn: foundation was completely ripped out from under your complete knowing of everything you believe it.

And by the way, for you and for many of us who's home, but in your case, it was not just your home. It's the whole community. That is a person. That is a being. That is a. And energy and to you to think it's gone 

Karen: I think it's, 

Jaime: it was 

Karen: part of you, Jaime. That 

Jaime: was literally.

Yeah. our land is so special. So many people who live in Jasper appreciate the land and the trails and the trees and the animals. And I was just shocked that all my animal friends were killed and dead and taken and that I'll never be back in that land again. And honestly, [00:18:00] I can now really truly say, I think I understand what people war refugees and stuff like that go through, 

and, you think you do until everything's ripped from you so we made it through that night. And in the morning one of my friends sent me a photo Two buildings in this photo and I was like, Oh my God, the town's not all gone. So I went from the bottom of the barrel to a little bit stepped up. I was like, there's two buildings. Oh my God, we can do this.

We can survive. That was huge. a map came out on Facebook and anything red was destroyed and anything green was still standing.

My house was green. And one of my friends who I evacuated with the two kids. Her house was green and we're like, Oh my gosh is this possible? Our houses survived and everything is red around us. it gave us so much hope.

And I sent it to my family we breathed a sigh of relief [00:19:00] for Oh my gosh, our houses are some of the lucky ones standing.

What are the odds? It's our two houses. We evacuated together. That map was inaccurate. So we found out around 5 p. m. that night. Our house was gone. So that night was pretty hard to there was a lot of tears and anger and frustration, but I did wake up in the morning feeling a sense of relief.

I was like, okay, Now I know my house is gone. I don't have to hold on to that. Is it there? 

Robyn: That's right. 

Jaime: Yeah, so since that day I've been able to release that So I haven't grieved My house or my belongings or anything like that. I lost some pretty special things.

Dog's ashes. My grandmother's antique locket stuff like that. But what was happening was the grief and the despair for our land, our community and our livelihoods. Thousands of us were ripped to shreds overnight. 

Robyn: how much of the [00:20:00] town survived? 

Jaime: So 30 percent was destroyed.

 And then, now it's hard to say because a lot of the town is still not operating. There's a lot of smoke damage, there's a lot of water damage. I only have one friend. Who is able to live in her home right now and she lives on the other end of town. My one friend went and she just had a baby.

They have to got her entire home. A lot of the restaurants in town aren't opening, so 30 percent has been completely burned. And then I'd say about 30 percent is uninhabitable,

and we always had a housing short crisis in Jasper, because again, we live in a national park, they want to keep it very pristine.

So you can't keep expanding. We've reached our building limits and so everyone's always looking for a place to stay and yada. And so this is like really thrown a wrench into our situation so 

Karen: Where are you now in the grief process, Jaime? do you feel at this [00:21:00] moment in time?

Jaime: At this right moment, I'm fine and I'm excited because I get to go to Jasper today. I have a place to stay starting today, I have not been doing well though. I have big breakdowns and it comes from sadness. I'm sad for a lot of people. I'm sad for the people with children.

I'm really sad for our seniors in our community. A lot of people are too old to rebuild. They won't want to. They said they can't. I'm sad for the animals that were killed. I'm sad for just the levels of depression and anxiety people are having. And the other thing which is interesting, was walking the other day and I was being rained on, and I know this may sound silly, but it was cold rain I don't have a jacket, and I've ordered one it's coming, but, didn't have a jacket, and I didn't have a home, and I don't have a car, my car has been fixed, it only melted a little bit, I felt very poverty stricken.

And I've never had that, naked, empty feeling. I don't [00:22:00] own anything, and I've lost everything. , it just brought up all these things, and I felt like a homeless person on the street, and so I didn't even mean to, but I was just sobbing uncontrollably loudly, and I couldn't even hold it back, and I was just like, I am just feeling so sad right now. I'm cold. I'm hungry.

I don't have a place to go. And it was just, it was really daunting Yeah. And it sucks because so many of us, we've been responsible, we've worked to have a home, and to have safety and comfort and security, and then it's just taken from you, 

Robyn: unexpectedly and it's such a shock to your system.

Jaime: And I think we're still in survival mode. My friend and I were just talking about that. I'm like, I can't believe we haven't come down with a cold or sore throat from nonstop. And she's I think we're in survival mode still. 

Karen: that's trauma. There's trauma sticks with you.

And then [00:23:00] to add that layer of vulnerability on top. 

Robyn: We know you've dealt with grief before. How would you compare this in terms of the type of grief 

Jaime: When my soulmate dog passed away, that was absolutely life shattering and debilitating. And anyone who loses a loved one has gone through that. Think the only difference, really, is the fear. This type of fear. Yeah, you have fear that you may never see that individual again.

Or the fear of not having them around you. This was like, Horror movie fear. 

Robyn: Yeah, to not have the safety and as you described and that stability and the loss of control, like real loss of control of your life and having to be forced to rebuild.

Jaime: you feel very naked and afraid, but I think like the grief of a death of a loved one is still more intense and worse and all that stuff. This is just, you've gotta shake yourself and be like, okay, [00:24:00] you have to push forward because there's a lot of steps we need to take to make this better, 

Karen: it's a death of a loved one in a way. But it's all encompassing. So it's not just one entity in a soul that soul doesn't die. It still stays with us. But evidence in front of you is showing you that everything is gone. 

Jaime: Yeah. And so with my faith and being animal medium and a human medium and my connection with source energy, I was feeling so strong the day this happened.

I'm like, yeah, I don't know. I just felt really connected, And then when this happened, I felt there is a blankness. And, but I was like, I'm not losing that. I trust what is happening. I know there's something big and amazing gonna happen because of this. I just don't know what it is.

And so that's really kept me going is keeping my faith and trusting the spirit world and God and Angels and all that to [00:25:00] have our backs. It just may not feel like it, but I have to keep trusting that because I do. And I tell my clients who are grieving you have to trust.

Otherwise, what do you have left? 

Karen: and it's really in this 3D world where everything that we see and touch. is our reality and that burns to the ground and is no longer there. It can't help but make you question wait a minute what is that other reality? Is that real? Is that gonna be gone as well?

Can I count on that to be in my life and guide me? 

Jaime: Yeah, and I think a lot of people can get to the state of being like why did you let this happen, God? Like, why did you let me go through this? I was just going to ask you, yeah, 

Robyn: , I would imagine that you're asking that,

Jaime: I refused to because I made that promise when I was a teen that I would never get that low.

So I had that half a second of No, we're done. And then I sucked it back in. I'm like, no, God, I trust you. but I know a lot of people are questioning that. and [00:26:00] every time I have a hop in it where I'm like sobbing uncontrollably walking down the street, I'm like okay.

Spirit world, this is in your hands let me know. But leading up to the fire, I forgot to mention, about a month before, I kept getting these messages of I'd just be sitting in my room, or getting ready for bed, or whatever, and I'd hear, Appreciate everything. Be grateful for what you have.

and it was so subtle, but I kept hearing it. I kept hearing it. And when I say hear it, not like a voice, but hearing the message in my mind and I'm like, appreciate everything you have. And then I started getting paranoid about my vehicle. I love my truck. But I started getting paranoid about it. And I was thinking, am I going to be in an accident? Am I going to lose this car? And every day I would check the tire pressure. Like I was getting really annoyed. And yeah. So I think this was just messages, be grateful what you have.

And 

Robyn: here's the thing, I get that message sometimes too, just as, and I'm thinking sometimes it'll make you go why are you telling me to that? Or sometimes it's just thank you for [00:27:00] the reminder. I do need to appreciate, cause not ever. And that actually, that brings up for me, just even in my recent world, I remember getting that message, not knowing that one of my dogs is really sick.

And then within a few weeks my dog passed. And I remember thinking when he and my other dog were laying on the couch, I took a picture the day that I got that message. Because I was like. I know, because I've gone through sudden loss, not the type of losing my home. I've had sudden loss of life.

And I remember then always thinking you have to appreciate these moments because you don't know what's going to happen, And where I'm going with this is as psychics and intuitives. You get some of these messages sometimes, but you don't know where they're really going to land.

Do you know what I 

Karen: mean? It's like your soul has this knowing what might be ahead and is not trying to warn you in any way, but just grounding you with that memory even a little bit more and getting you to savor it a little bit more. Yeah. 

Jaime: But I want to know something [00:28:00] else that I ignored.

So two years ago we had a fire as well in the east and it knocked out our power. It burnt some power poles. So we were without power for eight days, two Septembers ago. And town is full of tourists, There's no power, like at all. Wow. And it was really annoying, because I was like, we have no heat, it dropped below zero that night, and I thought that was bad, but nothing compared to this.

And then once the fire was under control and power was restored, I was meditating spirit world and trying to feel into the fire and to see what the purpose of that was. And in my mind's eye, I had a quick vision of a massive fire coming from the south. And that's what happened.

And I pushed that aside. And it was just so quick that I didn't really think about it until the fire came from the south and engulfed our town. So I was like, Ugh! 

Robyn: But again, that's the thing. That's what I'm saying. think the three of us had these experiences where don't know, and then there's the human part of us that's I'm just gonna wave that aside, 

Karen: I think there's also that connection [00:29:00] to time that we, yes, have that we don't even realize that we have so because know, right time is this.

weird thing where everything is all happening at the same time. So you could have very truly your future self could have been giving you a little bit of that, just ground yourself in the present moment, or had that knowing that was, Coming your way. And it was just your subconscious or in your soul, even that you couldn't even look at it with this realistic brain that we have.

Jaime: exactly. Another cool kind of spiritual story that happens to during this my cat, Lily. She's a whole body we try and take her outside. We built her a catio. She's no, I stay inside kind of thing. So we had to evacuate with her and all this stuff. And she was fine the first day.

And then after a week of being in the trailer with a bunch of people and stuff, we had to make our way and decide what we're going to do. [00:30:00] And we made it to the next town, which is a three hour drive and stayed in a hotel. And I always call Lily my moon kitty because if you have a cat, sometimes they feel like they're out of body.

They're astral traveling. There's something really galactic about them. So I always say she leaves her body and goes astral traveling. So her nickname is moon kitty. And it's been like that for years. So I'm saying good night, moon kitty. And I heard loud and clear, no denial, I'm earth kitty now. And she showed me in my mind's eye, the map of Canada and all these bright dots of where she was going to travel to.

And I started laughing and crying at the same time. And I was like, Colin, Lily just told me her name is earth kitty now. And then we decided. That what's going to work best for us in this moment is we're going to drive east and stay with my family for a month. So Lily knew we were going to go across Canada, and she's Earth Kitty now.

And every time you call her Earth Kitty, [00:31:00] she perks up and purrs. in 11 hotels, my family home, Airbnbs, she's lived in a truck. I have to thank her so much for being so resilient and strong because she has kept Colin, myself, and my dog, Breeze, alive. the past two months. She stepped 

All: up. 

Jaime: So I'm just so grateful for her. And that was just amazing. And then today I felt her say, I'm going to be Moonkitti again, and it was just so subtle and I'm like, please be Moonkitti again, because that means we'll have a place where we don't have to keep moving. But another story that I wanted to share with you ladies is Before my grandmother passed, her and I really didn't have a relationship.

We just weren't close. She didn't believe in mediumship. She said it was the devil's work. She's very Roman Catholic. However, when she passed away, I found out from relatives that she was a medium. But yeah. We didn't have a relationship until she passed away. One of my spear guides, she's always in readings, she's always around, and when the fire happened, I was like, Grandma, [00:32:00] where are you?

Can you come in and help for Crying Out Loud? I'm not feeling you, I'm not getting any information from you, it's so blank. And then about a month after the fire, my insurance adjuster went and took photos of our completely destroyed home. Completely destroyed. He's this is bad. Just so you know it's just a hole in the ground.

I'm like, I'm ready. Bring it on. And Colin zoomed into one of the photos. And two of my grandmother's China teacups were in perfect condition sitting in this pile of rubble. How do you explain that? I don't know, because a floor would have fallen on it, a roof would have fallen on it, and the cupboards they were in would have fallen on it.

Yes. And so a couple weeks ago, we got to go and sift through our property with a company called Rubicon. They're amazing. And I'm like, I just need those teacups. And they are melded together, There's two and it's just sitting like how you pile teacups in a cupboard, melted together.

And so I think one's [00:33:00] my grandma and one's my grandpa, who just passed away. But the other interesting thing is, because we have gas lines in the house, bulldozers had to come into every property take out the gas lines, and then what they did is they moved all the appliances and piled them On this, just piled them up, in this huge pile of melted metal and rust and whatever. They missed these teacups by two inches. Oh. This bulldozer dropped my stove. And the bulldozer was already in your property. Dropped everything, dropped my fridge. 

Karen: I've been all the way through there and did not crush them. 

Jaime: Yeah, so they survived the fire and then the bulldozer.

Oh my God 

Karen: That is the best. So she showed you, she's there, . Yeah. She's around? 

Robyn: Yeah. Yeah. 

Karen: Wow. 

Robyn: Yeah. Have 

Karen: you heard other stories, any other stories from your neighbors like that? 

Jaime: Yeah. . One house they had a watch. I think it was like grandfather's watch or something. It's [00:34:00] pretty cool to see because it stopped at 9 55 and so you know that's the time the fire hit our homes.

It was at 9 55. It was very Titanic y. Like, I don't know, it doesn't even remind me of the Titanic, which I total off topic, but which I actually was killed on the Titanic in a previous life. 

Karen: To 

Jaime: ask you 

Karen: about not the Titanic necessarily, but you mentioned at the very beginning that your home was destroyed in a tornado when you were young.

And I wonder from a trauma perspective, if there wouldn't be still a lot of that memory still within you that can trigger. Even this, more extensive tragedy in your life. 

Jaime: Yeah. Perhaps. I physically saw the tornado yeah, that's 

Karen: a lot. That's a lot for one person to, and it's not like a trauma can be so many things.

It could be a car accident or a death of a family member, but like yours was two events that were triggered by. [00:35:00] Kind of mother nature in a way. Yeah. Yeah. 

So there's something to, that in your journey. And I wonder if there's not something to sort through there too.

Jaime: Interesting. Yeah. That's a good point. I'll look into that. I'll see 

Robyn: if I can figure that out. in tying into what you just said about a past life and seeing yourself die on the Titanic when you had that regression. What did it make you feel? Was there anything that you learned about from that lifetime that you were taking into this lifetime?

I'm not sure. So what 

Jaime: happened in there, so I was in the lower levels of the ship and I was playing with this little boy who actually turns out to be Colin, my partner. And a beam fell on his head and killed him instantly and pinned him down and then the water start coming in and the Largest feeling I had of that moment was because I love this little boy.

I was six and he was probably eight and I just was [00:36:00] like, I'm six. How do I have so much love for this child? I didn't know this was the thing. And I just remember thinking the shock and I remember standing there and I think I had a doll in my hand. I remember standing there in shock and thinking, how can you love someone so much one minute and the next minute they're gone.

And I just remember it. Pure, utter shock. And I was just standing there, panicked, and then I saw all these men running over his body and trying to escape and like stomping on him. And then I looked to my other side and then I just saw the water coming. 

Robyn: there's some sort of relationship with that and what you have just been going through.

Karen: You lost your home. How you love that so much. And it was instantly gone. And I don't know how you felt about your home with the tornado, but if there was any of that, where it's the other thing that comes through, Jaime, what you talk about is this surrealness of this experience. And it probably is the same thing from the Titanic.

Like how can this boat sink, how can [00:37:00] well and tornado, take, it's similar to Jasper, right? You were in this bubble. Yeah. 

Robyn: The Titanic was a boat. Yeah. Yeah. 

Karen: No one, that feeling of safety that you were in 

Jaime: and 

Karen: then all 

Jaime: of 

Karen: a 

Jaime: sudden, yeah. No one put on their life jackets.

No one grabbed their jewelry from their state rooms. They're like, oh, we're on the Titanic. It's unsinkable. We'll be okay. 

Karen: I dunno, that is the crazy relate. There's a lot of. There's a link in this for you there and I think It doesn't take it'll take away the pain, but even in your ability to heal through it and look for those messages for you.

Yeah 

Jaime: that's cool that you noticed that link Yeah. 

Robyn: And what are you supposed to break in this lifetime time now, if you are, able to see the thread. what is there to learn and or break the chain of that for yourself?

Yeah, 

Jaime: and want to know what's weird now that you're picking this up. My first reincarnation memory when I was three years old, I started telling my mom about it was I was a Native American warrior. [00:38:00] Breedies, my dog was my horse. And the bad guys came and burnt our village down and slaughtered everyone.

And Oh my god. I thought you They literally killed us. Yeah. Oh, Jaime, wow. And I have birthmarks, which I call scars. from that lifetime. And I would tell my mom when I was three years old and I said I was from this tribe and this happened and I've gone into a regression with that. But yeah, now I'm like, Oh, okay, here we go.

I'll see. 

Karen: And so the trauma, the anger the sadness, all of that is so deep within, what you've been through is incredibly difficult, but if it's triggering all those other memories. That's a lot. That's 

Jaime: a lot. Yeah, and when we were driving to Ontario because the highways were closed, because of the fire and again, we're remote, we had to go this massive loop to even get to where we started, and we were leaving the mountains, so we were going through Banff and Lake Louise, and Jasper's only three hours north and I was [00:39:00] just Wrecked.

I was like ripped to shreds thinking I am so close to my home, my community, and I can't go. And all I could think of was when, Native people were pushed from their land. 

Robyn: And you feel so attached because it is a part of you. I think Karen was saying it was like there was a death of some sort.

That was, yeah. 

Karen: The powerlessness. I think that for so many people a thing you could do. And I don't know about you. To me, powerlessness is the absolute worst. Oh, 

Jaime: it's awful. And yeah I feel like someone scooped part of my soul out right now. I just feel this emptiness in here.

And it's not being in my land. And I don't even know what to say. It's just terrible. 

Robyn: There's two questions I want to ask. One is, Are there specific things that you've been doing to cope with the trauma and this loss as you've been going through it?

And then what is to come now? how are you and the community [00:40:00] rebuilding and what does that look like? 

Jaime: So my thing is to always stick with the spirit world. I find that is the best healing it's a saying as a medium you can go to therapy for 30 years And then you can have one good mediumship reading and it's trumped all those sessions So my faith and I'm getting the goosebumps now, that's my healing is to connect with source energy Keep up with my meditation and I've been taking clients.

So I'm back working full time Because connecting on that higher vibrational frequency is the best way to heal every Physical emotional mental whatever I'm meditating. I do my own thing. 

Karen: And reconnecting with the land and the animals, like that is your source of. Yeah. 

Jaime: And so today I get to go back and I'm not leaving. I have a hotel room lined up. So they're doing evacuation rates.

They are hosting evacuees until April. I get to [00:41:00] actually in November move into my mother in law's house. She's going to go to Costa Rica for the winter. So I'll be back in my land and I'm staying there. I'm staying there and I'm going to heal. 

Karen: so it's a little bit of a different question, but is there anything that you can do as you get back there to reconnect to those animals who maybe have crossed and tune into them?

We all know that animals have no fear of death, they transition very seamlessly and all of that. But I think for those left behind, that is still trauma that humans are carrying on their behalf in a way. Can you help? almost heal the land a bit. 

Jaime: Yeah, I'm going to and but a lot of the areas are still closed because of falling trees, dangerous places there's one space that lake that I took breeze to that night where she went walk.

That's where I need to go and heal. And that's where some of my animal friends live. there is an aerial map and I was able to zoom in and I see the area that I always hang out [00:42:00] with them and it's still green. So I'm hoping they're still alive. So once that opens up Breeze and I are going to go sit there and find them and then I'm going to try and do exactly that like feeling to all the animals that were taken And hurt.

Robyn: Yeah. 

Karen: And 

Robyn: even talking to the land and yeah, I would imagine and asking how can you help the land 

Jaime: feel 

Robyn: that 

Jaime: land is so spiritual 99. 9 percent of people that go there, they're like, wow, I love to part of my heart. Jasper I need to go back.

There's something in that area that is not normal. It's powerful and it's healing and it's beautiful. And again, it reminds me of Lahaina. Lahaina, everyone's it's a small, historic, protected, beautiful, spiritual community, and we're like the Lahaina of Canada. And yeah, when you go to these places, 

Karen: Yeah it [00:43:00] feels like such a pure base, but like the earth is a teacher and all of these experiences, however horrific they are there to teach us 

Jaime: I'm not mad at mother earth. We can't be mad at, she needed to do this, the forest needs to regenerate humans have been getting in the way, and it's part of the process, it's part of the process, and we'll rebuild we'll be okay, it's just gonna take a lot of tears and effort.

Robyn: Wow, and how is your community, your friends, and how are they? I mean It's 

Jaime: okay, but it's not okay. There are thousands of people displaced and who are lingering to be in that lands And Think they said 900 doors are gone. And when I mean by doors, that means homes. So there's 360 houses, but people have basement suites, people have, So they said 900 doors are gone, so we're up to over 2000 people [00:44:00] easily who are aching to get home. So in that sense, we're not doing well. there's so much pain and sadness, but the community is pulling together to rebuild and find. A way to get everyone that temporary housing trailers are being discussed right now to try and get it in before winter.

 So hopefully that helps, the spirit of Jasper is strong, but everyone is hurting. 

Robyn: and it's such a place that so many people visit. So would sense that there's this in this. urgency to get things from getting everyone a place to live and be so that there can be continuing this cycle of having people come visit and experience 

Jaime: Exactly.

We're a tourism town. That's our industry. We need those people. And right now they're, unfortunately, only essential workers are being housed. So doctors, teachers, But in reality, we're all essential from like burger [00:45:00] flippers to the chambermaids at the hotels. in order for our community to get back, we need housing 

All: for 

Jaime: everyone.

And until that happens, there's going to be a lot of pain and suffering. So I feel lucky because I get to go home today. I'm one of the few out of thousands that get to go home. 

Karen: It feels. Jaime, like you have an opportunity, maybe this is not an accident at all, that you're one of the first to go back because not only will you bring your own healing energy to the town, you'll also go through your own experience of grief and all of that process that you need to go through.

And then when people come back, you'll be able to meet that community and how, Help guide them, help lead them through it. And so I don't think this is any accident that you have, all people are going to be one of the first back to take that journey first so that you can help others when they have to take theirs.

Jaime: Oh, yeah, I really want to help people like to at least feel a bit comfortable, even if it's just for a day, [00:46:00] like here's some food. Here's a blanket that goes a long way. 

Robyn: And I think what you can also do is really point out signs to people because I when you're back and now you've been going through this process of grief and loss.

And now since you are in a different phase of it, you can be back, you're open and connecting again. You can point out those signs and which end up being signs of hope. The more you can reconnect people to the land you are exactly where you're meant to be now, the more that it's going to end up raising that vibration again.

Yeah. 

Jaime: I hope you're right. 

Karen: We were talking with someone this morning about home and she's selling her home and doesn't want to leave it and how much she loves it and how she can't imagine going to another. Home and how it's become part of who she is. And I think that's so true of so many of us.

We don't necessarily realize how important our homes [00:47:00] are. And yet there's an opportunity here for us to redefine maybe what home can actually be for us. 

Jaime: Yeah, like my home is. The town that land. 

Karen: Yeah. And the people and, yeah. Yeah. It's not the structure, even though you love that, but it was where it was and the connection to the people.

Yeah. How you felt about the land and Yeah, and what it did for you as a human person and your soul 

Robyn: and the other part of the home for you, which I got from you, just sharing That little part of the regression at the Titanic is your home is also with Colin and it's also with Breeze and Lily, like they are your home too.

Yeah. Where they are is part of your home. 

Jaime: I even said to Colin a couple weeks ago, I'm like, can you believe we both died on the Titanic and now we're in this devastating forest fire and he's just huh. Burn 

Robyn: to death! What's it gonna be next? But it's that definition of home, right?

Yeah. It's like home is that Karen was just saying it's the land and it's that connection Yes. With the other souls that you are meant [00:48:00] to travel these lifetimes with. it's hard to explain it until you feel it, I think. Yeah. Oh my 

Karen: gosh. And I just came back to that, the teacup.

I'm sure that's what your grandmother was trying to share with you. Like the melding of the two of them was their home, their connection to each other and your ongoing lifetimes with. Colin and breeze, all I'm sure all every animal that you've ever had, you've been connected with before.

So that can be a wonderful message for people in the midst of all this tragedy to remember that. 

Jaime: Yeah. And no matter how hard it is, try and keep that faith honestly, without that, we have Nothing. And it can be hard because we might feel cheated and hurt and especially with human death, if your partner or your soul dog or whoever is killed tragically, especially like you might feel cheated.

And we do feel cheated. We're angry at times. We're like, we just, worked our butts off [00:49:00] for years to buy our first home and overnight it's gone. But you know what, we have to keep that faith and be strong. And you can show people 

Karen: that is the very real grief process, That anger is okay.

It's really okay to be that and to be devastated all of those emotions are part of it. But to your point, there's the hope that you will get through it and there will be another home. Within that community that will be there as well. It's just, my grandmother used to say, the only way out is through you.

Jaime: Oh, I have another really interesting story to share with you ladies regarding this. 

So the other morning When I had that really bad breakdown where I was walking in the rain and I felt really poverty stricken and all this stuff, I went to bed and I woke up in the morning and I saw, no word of a lie, in my mind's eye, I was in this other land and there was a street sign and I heard Who I feel is God, spirit, source [00:50:00] energy, say, which way do you want to go?

And the street sign had an arrow, and it was pointing to this beautiful land, which I knew was Heaven, the other side. The other arrow was pointing to this dark murky path of earth and navigating this devastation. And I chose the devastation. 

Robyn: Wow. Because I 

Jaime: promised, I made that promise when I was a teen.

But, So that's how much faith I have that this is going to work out. Yeah, you're taking the harder road. so I was like, okay, so was that an exit point? Did I decide hey, I'm not going to die next week. I'm going to go this way. it was so weird. 

Robyn: Could be. And what it also underscores is.

you chose to walk that path and , we come here for the human experience. Not everybody is going to go through the devastation that you just have gone through. However, almost everybody is going to go through some sort of loss and some sort of difficult times, probably more than once or twice in their lives.

Again, maybe not to the [00:51:00] degree that you've just experienced, but we come here to experience it. When we are out of this human form, I believe that it's it is more of this connectedness of this one consciousness and when we're in this form, we want to experience all levels of emotion, That helps us grow as a soul.

Jaime: Yeah, and my goal is since I was a kid, I said that This is my last life. I'm going to reach my highest level of spirituality and enlightenment in this lifetime. So part of the reason I didn't take that path was because I was like I ain't coming back I'm done I'm doing this now. Yes. So I can 

Karen: stay over there when I go.

Yeah. And so you opened yourself up to the opportunity of having experiences that were really going to be tough. And for you are going to hit your heart so closely because it's about nature and it is about the animals and all the things that you love so much and that you made your career and your soul journey doing.[00:52:00] 

So you picked something really hard for yourself and yet getting through that experience is gonna get you through that life lesson. 

Robyn: And you re signed up for it. That's what that was. Was that like you going, okay, which way? and your awareness of I'm rechecking the box.

I'm going to keep going down the path, even though I know . It feels so hard. And you're going to help so many people. And even having this conversation, you're helping so many people right now, whether or not they're actually going through with you in the town of Jasper, or they're going through their own personal devastation and upheaval.

 You are helping by sharing your journey and you're helping by getting up every day. And in moving forward. 

Karen: And sharing. So honestly, where you are, I think, we're all afraid sometimes to show people our real true selves and emotions and feelings as we're going through these really difficult times.

But I think your ability to be able to do that and relate to that as the empath that you [00:53:00] are is gonna mean so much more healing is gonna happen. So it's gonna be your healing journey and just like Robyn said, people are gonna be like, okay, I can see how she walked the walk. Now I can do it too. Yeah, 

Jaime: I hope it helps.

Robyn: helps. so much, Jaime, for being so honest, and raw, and real, and for walking the walk, when it wasn't something that you intended to face, but you're doing it with such love. Resilience and grace and love courage and courage. Yes, the word I'm using for you. Absolute and 

Jaime: strength. Thank you. Thank you.

I know will be okay. It's just going to be a bit. 

Robyn: we're here to support and continue the conversation. And. For anybody who is interested, is there a place for people to help the town or community of Jasper? Is there anywhere you can point people? 

Jaime: Oh, for financial donations?

So unfortunately, a lot of the federal and municipal donation [00:54:00] centers have been tied up with, Bureaucracy or something and people need help. Now. A lot of people have been redirected to homeless shelters in the cities, . 

Robyn: Yep. So you're back taking clients. So if people want to have one on one sessions with you for animal communication and or mediumship, they can go to Jaimebreeze. com and book . links in our show notes, they can follow you and follow your journey because you are and I'm sure again, as Karen said, so courageous and brave, and you've been sharing a lot of this journey.

So I'm sure we'll be able to continue to follow you in real time as you rebuild. yes, we love you so much. 

Jaime: love you ladies to thank you so much for having me on and allowing me to share this experience.