How often have you thought about your little self? The very little you that was unknowingly taking everything in and also approaching everything with love and wide-eyed curiosity? That little self has a big impact on your current self – and we’re going to talk all about it with Christine Ryan.
Christine is a transformational life coach based in magical Sedona, who has been helping people move from where they are unhappy or stuck to where they are at peace and in alignment with their souls' journey. She uses emotional clearing and healing practices such as Spiritual Response Therapy, Emotional Freedom Technique (EFT), breathwork, hypnotherapy, counseling, action plans and divination tools in her work.
Christine can especially help you get to the root of inner child wounds and begin to reparent yourself so that you can live your most joyful and fulfilling lives. We've both had an opportunity to work with her --she’s a wealth of wisdom on making meaningful shifts in your life.
You can find out more about working with Christine at thesedonalifecoach.com
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Robyn: How often have you thought about your little self, the very little you that was unknowingly taking everything in and also approaching everything with love and wide-eyed curiosity that little self has a big impact on your current self. And we're gonna talk all about it with [00:01:00] Christine Ryan. Christine is a transformational life coach who for over 40 years has been helping people move from where they are unhappy or stuck to where they are at peace and in alignment with their soul's journey.
She uses emotional clearing and healing practices such as spiritual response therapy, emotional freedom therapy, or E F T breath work, hypnotherapy counseling, action plans, and divination tools in her work. We love Christine. We both had the opportunity to work with her, and Karen even had the privilege of working with her in magical Sedona.
She's a wealth of wisdom on making meaningful shifts in your life and especially help you get to the root of inner child wounds and and begin to reparent yourself so that you can live your most joyful and fulfilling life.
There's so much to discuss. Hi, Christine. Hi Christine.
Christine: Hi Robin. Hi Karen. I'm so pleased to be here. Thank you very much for hosting this forum for all of us. We
Karen: were just [00:02:00] saying it's way overdue. We've known you for such a long time and I've learned so much from you. So we're really excited to have this conversation today.
Robyn: And let's start with where you live, because we know that is how we became connected with you because Karen met you in magical Sedona. So what called you there and then kept you there?
Christine: It's a kind of a fun story, really. My older sister and I, who also lives here now we did a road trip back in the seventies when people were doing that, and we had the curtains and the bed in the back and the van and we drove all around the United States.
So somebody told us to go to Jerome, Arizona, which is a little outside of Sedona. So when we looked at the map, we looked from okay, we're to get from Flagstaff to Jerome, we're gonna go through this little highway called 89 a.
And we never made it to Jerome because that little highway happened to go through Sedona. And right [00:03:00] away we met some really fun people, young people like ourselves. So right away we were invited to jump into the magic of Sedona, so of course, we fell in love
Robyn: had you ever seen anything like it and at the that time? No. I really couldn't look things up on the internet, so
Christine: I'm assuming no.
And, we're doing paper maps at the time, right? So we had no idea, we were literally screaming, As we drove down the canyon Road and entered as Sedona was just spread out in front of us, and, the mountains are shaped like, emperors and guardians and goddesses and so just literally emoting, energy.
As we were taking it in because it was so stunning. But also the energy was very higher vibration, different vibration. You literally feel it. Many people to this day talk about how they get emotional just driving into Sedona.
Karen: I know I did. I couldn't get over how you're in this flat desert area and [00:04:00] then all of a sudden it just springs to life in front of you.
And it's not just visual, like you said, Christine. It is energetic. It's palpable. It makes you feel like you're in literally another world when you get there. Were you and your sister spiritual at all at that stage in your lives?
Christine: We were both so interested in exploring that aspect of who we are.
But at the time it was opening, so I really started with simple things like. Yoga and I came across a book and it discussed the philosophy behind it and then postures and the purpose of the postures. And I was 14 when I found that book in our own basement.
Robyn: No way. Really?
Christine: Yes. My dad was a landlord and sometimes people left things behind.
So somebody left a bookshelf of books and he just stuck it in the basement. And I was always a bookworm, , and it was half a yoga I remember as a little yellow book. I don't remember the author, but at a very young age, we were raised Catholic, and really went to school five [00:05:00] days a week, inundated with a Catholic and then on Sunday, but I had a very spontaneous vision, again, around 13 or 14 of the Yin yang symbol.
It just came to me in it, it was like sleep form. the worlds between consciousnesses and got the message. This is God. And for me that just is oh, this makes so much more sense. God is energy. So I was able to not be too indoctrinated with Catholicism and the Christianity of my early religious years. And same thing for my sister, but just we're open. Sedona was the only place we stayed. We stayed here for two weeks. So we both ended up moving back here within the year.
Karen: there anybody specifically that you met during that visit, or was there any specific experience that you had that really made you feel like, this is where we need to be,
Christine: Being two young women, we met two young men.
Robyn: I love the look on your face.
Christine: And it was really, so they really opened their home and their hearts showed [00:06:00] us around and took us to some really magical places. And then, we met a lot of young people. It was a great community. and then I actually met a significant other, who is the father of my daughter.
he had the very first spiritual bookstore here in Sedona. He called it the House of Light. And people would just come and walk in and go, I don't know why I'm here.
And he goes, okay, lemme help you with that. And he would guide them to different resources or people and all of that. and then there were just some really cool elders that lived here that were spiritual, that were also great mentors to us younger people. I'll tell you, one of the best things about growing up in Sedona, cuz I moved here when I was 20 discernment. Just cuz there were a lot of people that would come to Sedona and claim to be
Enlightened or gurus. That weren't. Yeah. So this is again, where what you're doing is just so precious, because [00:07:00] it's digging into, the, the roots of authenticity,
Robyn: Yeah. And so how did you develop and start to trust your intuition,
Christine: Oh, I love that question. Okay. The best teacher for me about learning to listen to my intuition is when I didn't,
Karen: I have not heard that one before. Oh.
Christine: Think about it. Haven't you ever gotten a hit and then you did it anyway, and you're like, why did I do that? And I paid, no regrets.
Everything has value in gifts and learning and growing. But I had some in my life where it was like, I had a hit and I didn't listen to it, and I paid a big price for that. Wow. Wow. And then the converse of that, the other side of that, which is following a hit Yeah. And then having it work out.
It made no sense to move to Sedona.
Robyn: And you were coming from Wisconsin,
Robyn: Yeah, Wisconsin. That's far away,
Christine: oh, absolutely. And of course, nobody understood it. my family were like, what?
Karen: Now, Christine, have you always followed this spiritual [00:08:00] path in the work that you're doing? Did that start immediately when you got to Sedona? Or were you in a period where you were learning and growing before you started
Christine: teaching and practicing?
I got into spiritual exploration young. And it did get shelved after I had kids. I was working, I was a teacher, I had kids, so it was a lot of just householding, raising a family. Including I did move to California for 15 years
it was actually really conservative. So I ended up slowly at first I'd start off by having my cards on the bookshelf or my crystals, out, out in public. And the comments that my kids were exposed to we're like, oh, that's the devil's work, is your mom a witch? So I'm just like, you know what, we're gonna just put this stuff away, for now. And then as all the kids, got older and they were thinking for themselves again I was doing readings for them. I bet. But it's always there.
And then [00:09:00] here's another great example of intuition, were living in California. Great life, nice community, nice group of friends, great school where the kids were, all that. But I got a really strong hit. It was time to leave. And the only place I wanted to go was Sedona.
I talked my then husband at the time, and he'd be like, no, I never want, I'm a California boy. And it just would not go away. So I just kept bringing it up and bringing it up.
And then he agreed. And then my daughter who was then in high school agreed. And it's been really great. That was in 1999. Wow. But I'm telling you, we went back, Our neighborhood.
It had really changed. to the place where we were grateful we weren't living there anymore. And so that's part and plus then we just loved our life here. . We all went to the creek the other day and he was like, I wanna thank you for making me come to Sedona, and .
Isn't that sweet? that's an example of listening, and it really elevated our life and then it elevated our community, I was here to be able to be, integral part of, Sedona Soul Adventures as it was just an [00:10:00] idea.
And then now it's amazing and, that also has taught me to listen to my intuition. . And
Robyn: then it sounds like when you moved back it was your time to really work on your abilities.
Christine: A hundred percent.
Karen: for those who've never been to Sedona, how would you describe the energy there and the draw of the land? I know when both Robyn and I were there we weren't there together, but we both felt so attached to the land itself, our feet on the ground, and like literally immersing ourselves in that.
Can you just as a resident, as somebody who's lived there, can you just describe
Christine: what that feels like living there? I will tell you after 35 years total of living in Sedona, I still get emotional when I come back , from a trip. No matter how wonderful the trip was, I am, it's just there, there is that energetic home.
Sedona has, and I'm not a historian, I know a little bit, okay. But Sedona has always been considered sacred. even for the, the [00:11:00] first nations that would live around here, they still come down to Montezuma as well and get water for their sacred ceremony, and come through Sedona the people.
So then from early on, the people that were drawn to live here, one of the original people that I met in Sedona way back in the day was a rancher who was very spiritual and would host spiritual meetings at his house, and which is now a national park.
That he donated to the National Park Service, so people get to visit there all the time. But originally that was his ranch, so it's always drawn people and then supported explorers, visionaries, healers, there's a real connection for a lot of people.
So what comes first, the chicken or the egg, right? If we hold something sacred, it's sacred. And if we acknowledge that it's sacred, it's sacred, so Sedona has always been almost an entity in herself to hold in that sacred energy. And I know we're gonna [00:12:00] dive
Robyn: into the inner child and what that means, but I also wanted just to recognize all of the different practices and tools that you have in your toolbox. Do you use them all when you're working with people in your life, coaching and so forth?
Christine: I use the tools that are appropriate for where the person is and what they're open to. one of my favorite sayings is, I'm a believer that you can have it all just not all at the same time. So of course it's been an evolvement.
I've been at this for a really long time, first, I didn't start out to be somebody else's life coach. I started off to be my own. Yeah, totally. Doing, all evolved from doing my own work, and. And then learning the tools that I felt were really valuable for me, that really were, oh, I love how this, shifted or I like how this works, or, that kind of a thing.
And then bit by bit, learn something new, I love to keep learning. So the inner child, yeah. Let's dive into the inner child. Yes. Because.
as a coach, it's obvious we all [00:13:00] have inner child wounds. Not all of our inner child is wounded, but the wounds really get in our way and I wanna really make this clear, I really truly believe that we all have these inner child wounds because that's what we came to learn and grow and evolve through To me, there is nothing more important that we can leave this planet with. Other than self-love. And I don't mean selfish love. When you love yourself you love, you are love you, be love. so it's not we always say, oh, something wrong. No, it's an opportunity and an invitation to grow.
And I think it's lifelong. at least it's for me, you think you're you've done a layer and yes we have, but then there's another one, and I think that again, is part of each one of our individual intention, , do we wanna even accept the invitation?
Some people don't. That's totally fine. That's where they are. Although,
Robyn: although it does end up catching up when you don't. Pay attention, push it down.
Christine: Yeah, but I say it's totally fine because [00:14:00] when it's supposed to be, they're gonna be ready. It's so true. Their life is gonna get so uncomfortable that's always how it works for us.
It's, not that they're gonna get, go, we get really uncomfortable and then we know, oh, I gotta do something different, so again, it's an invitation to change and grow.
Karen: So how do you work with someone from the very beginning on in this process? If they come to you and are looking for coaching, what might not even think it has something to do with their inner child?
How do you introduce that to them and help them identify what some of those inner child wounds might
There's different approaches, it's really through conversation and questions, and over time, again, noticing themes. So being able to dis Oh, so would you say that you of be the giver in your life? Are you the one that gives more than receives?
And so that just starts that conversation, of one of the inner child wounds of needing to give in order to receive. In order to feel worthy.
Robyn: [00:15:00] and to add to Karen's question. When we are talking about inner child what are we talking about in terms of age?
Christine: We're really talking about our egoic child self that was born, that, grew in the womb we absorbed things even there, and and then was born and then lived this life with all the experiences that, help to form us and then that is typically how we show up out in the world.
So that part of ourselves, we would really I label the masculine. It's the part of ourselves that shows up in the world. what our career is, how we see ourselves, the producer, the one that gets things done, and then, so we all have this holy trinity, the masculine and the feminine.
So the feminine is a part of ourself that can receive, that takes it in. So that feminine part of ourself rec receives it mean, and receiving all good things, including our intuition, Our wisdom, not blocking it, being open to it, listening to it,[00:16:00] receiving all good things from the universe, so ideally we wanna work with the feminine, receiving those intuitive hits and then the masculine acting on it. That creates such a nice flow. So when we just depend on the masculine, we're just making it happen.
I gotta make it happen. So the feminine, makes more of a flow. Okay, let me get the hip, let me, what is the right direction? What feels right? All of that. Then the child. The child is the third part of our holy trinity or internal sacred geometry is innocence, faith, trust, deservedness, permission.
Think of the little kids, and I hope you know, kids that are. Have good, healthy lives. They don't question where things are coming from or if they deserve education or if they deserve a good pair of shoes when there's wear out. It's just not even a, there's not a doubt, do I deserve this?
So that's our inner child. So the wounds show up. Anything blocking that, things that block permission to receive good things that, make us feel less than, and then we can identify our wounds by our triggers. [00:17:00] What sets us off, we always wanna act like it's the other person, but it's our trigger is our wound.
Yes. And people don't think of it that way. Right on. And because we're so used to blaming them, you shouldn't do that. That makes me upset, like that rather than, it's my responsibility when I get upset, it's a whole different perspective, but that's where the healing comes in.
Karen: you say another word for wound might be a belief in a way?
Christine: Yes, absolutely. Hundred percent.
Karen: big girls don't cry. Money doesn't grow on trees, things like that. Cuz I'm just thinking back to, so it causes you to have a belief that either causes fear or shuts you off in some way from that bubbly, loving Light infused child that you came into the world being.
so as you're doing that inventory of those things that could be wounds, it's not necessarily like your mom yelled at you and made you feel inferior. Although it could be some of those other little things, limiting beliefs in a way
Christine: a hundred percent Karen Yeah.
And it's not all from our mom and dad. We gotta stop that.[00:18:00] Not to say it, it isn't, I can, definitely identify challenges in my life, some beliefs that I continually need to outgrow that did come from the way I was parented. Or just my family, the way we were raised, and we are complicated being But that is the reparenting is when we get triggered, instead of looking and making it about the other person, we go right inside and we comfort our own child, our little girl or boy that, somebody said something mean. And again, it doesn't mean that the other person didn't say something mean or do something neglectful or whatever.
But that's not gonna help contribute to any healing, the healing comes in. It's like you would wanna speak to your inner child in that moment you wished your parents spoke to you when you were struggling or hurt, or like you would speak to your own kids, when they're three or four and somebody pushed them down.
It's yeah. I know a lot of us are raised by, you're okay, get up, you're fine. But really, our inner child really [00:19:00] wishes we just got over and give 'em a hug and say, you're okay, good job That comfort. And so that's where we can start healing ourselves and this kind of work, yes.
That kind of thing. We can only do ourselves, but to have guidance and to have, it really does help to have somebody guide you to, okay, what does this look like? Walk me through it at least once or twice, so that we can really understand it.
Robyn: I was gonna just ask before we even go into the healing and what that could look like, what are some of the most common inner child
It always boils down to some form of unworthiness. something wrong with me, or I'm unlovable or I have to earn love, or a lot of really great achievers and this is great motivation, but still I have to prove I'm lovable. I'm like, all right. Again, earning, I gotta earn it.
It's not just a given, it's not that unconditional love. So then here's what's important. a lot of it is instilled, we call these [00:20:00] imprints instilled from growing up. It could be. Teachers, coaches, other kids, right? Siblings, parents, it could be an experience with a dog, that now you get, don't like dogs.
You know what I mean? It's like lots and lots we're very complicated beings,
and so just being present with what is going on within it is what brings in the healing. Not making it about the outer. As long as we're making it about the outer, it's not gonna work. we can't change them, and we're not healing our inner child, so you really wanna treat.
And so that's the other thing , so when you feel triggered, go in and do the healing. Just comfort. It's just comfort. And by the way, a great jisu . Why do children suck their thumb? So hold your thumb. It's very comforting. Yeah. so children have these natural instincts.
Let's say somebody triggers you, and you get angry. You're angry because you're hurt. You still need comfort. Okay. So then, it's always the hurt that what triggers us. And whatever emotion shows up on the outside it's that hurt.
So that's our [00:21:00] opportunity go right inside, do that inner trial healing, and that's part of the reparenting, right? that exactly what reparenting is. Nobody else can do that. then when we're growing up Yeah.
It comes from the outside. It does, and it's our part of it was believing it or accepting it. then from like twenties on, we're doing it to ourselves. That's not coming from the outside. Again, even if somebody's rude to us or neglects us or anything, it's still that real reaction ,
Karen: it's almost a learned behavior, a learned belief, so that you're automatically going to that without even thinking about it, which is why it's a trigger. And what I love, I'm just thinking about what you're saying and how to do this in a practice.
And I think for so many of us, Because when we become adults, we're like, oh, I shouldn't feel that way, or I should just get over it. We're always talking to ourselves in that way versus if you can imagine yourself as a little one,
Christine: it makes sense. Karen, let's do that. Can we take five minutes? Sure. Okay.
Let's do that right now, because I am telling you it is, it's powerful. So for [00:22:00] anybody listening, if you're driving, don't do this. But if you can take five minutes to just close your eyes and check in with yourself and imagine your four year old self, big wide, innocent eyes and curiosity and openness to what people are telling you.
And you're just right there. And just imagine that sweet child standing in front of you, four years old.
And now, just because we're doing this as a group now, say to her some of the negative things you say to yourself. You're dumb. You can't do this. Who are you to think you're so good. you're fat. I hate my body. Okay, you get it. What are the negative things you say to yourself and say this to this little four year old? And is that [00:23:00] fair? Are any of those things true? That's who you're talking to. When you have negative self-talk, you're not really talking to your adult self that can quote, get over it.
You're repeating often from early on, negative things that now you're adopting and you're doing to yourself. So we can stop that right now. You would never do that to a child, would you? You would never deliberately make them feel less than, or unworthy so never, ever do that to yourself again.
, isn't that powerful when you realize, oh, that little innocent, oh my God, that's huge.
Robyn: Wow. Actually,
Karen: And it applies to so many different things. I'm just thinking about myself as the oldest of six children, and how at times you can be jealous of someone else because you feel like they're getting the toy, or you have to share the toy with [00:24:00] someone else, or share your parents' attention with someone else, or you get the hand me down versus getting the new.
C it can really imprint in some of the different levels so that when that jealousy triggers you, you think it's an adult jealousy, but it really isn't. It really stems from that early on experience.
Christine: And I love how you guys are so great and the way you just weave the conversation and make the connections so it would show up like, let's say that having to share your toy having to share everything, And me too. I grew up in a big family, have to share everything. It shows up now in adulthood when let's say you go out to dinner and somebody wants a bite of your food, You think, why does that bother me? Becau, it's just that I just don't wanna share right now, Don't make me share or whatever it is. It's that little child that was made to. And now to be polite, you're like, oh sure. But really what you're saying is no back off or feeling, and I'm, that's just an example, because we laugh about it. That's my sister and I, but. See how it shows up though.
Karen: Yeah. The people pleasing thing can just pop up or, I know for me it's always [00:25:00] feeling like I have to do for others. Cause I was the oldest and helping mom the other kids and feeling like that was my role to be valuable because I was the oldest and that was my job in a way.
And how you realize gosh, you think it's just your behavior today, but when you really look at the triggers in particular, they always can be
Christine: back. And you guys are super intuitive and I know most of your listeners are for sure. So you'll know that trigger will tell you what that wound is, and really, even if you don't know what it is, it doesn't matter. All you need is comfort. So like sharing, it's I've given myself full permission to not have to share anymore. It's honey, you don't have to, And if, I don't mind, I don't mind, but it's like I don't have to, it's oh, now I don't mind.
Now it's coming from my heart, rather than expectation or that belief or that imprinting from childhood.
Robyn: What it also brought up for me, in addition to that idea of. Those things that as an adult, you may say to yourself or think, and would you ever say that to a four year old and then your [00:26:00] four year old self?
I also love this idea too, of when you're not sure, and you may not trust your own intuition in terms of whether you should or shouldn't do something, go to that four year old self, that four year old little you, and ask that little you would you wanna do that? Because a four year old has no problem saying, I don't wanna do that.
I don't wanna Excellent Robyn, I want I, and you could just see yourself like sitting down with your legs crossed no, I don't wanna do that. And if that's the reaction you get because you're not sure you trust your own intuition as an adult, I think that is an actual good way of making some decisions.
Christine: Great. A hundred percent. A hundred percent. That's one of my favorite tools I share. do we have time? Can I share this real quick? Please. Yes. This is a tool to do exactly that. Check within, our gut, our intuition, our feeling And then really deliberately asking the inner child.
I love that, bringing that right in there. And this is good, Karen, for you two, for people that are like used to doing a lot for others, we're just kinda, that's how we're trained, the [00:27:00] first part, never answer yes or no right away. Give people a non-answer, even if you have to get back to 'em soon.
Still the first answer is, I'll get back to you or let me check my calendar. Because often our habitual behavior is we'll say yes. And then later we're like, do and that dory part is the little child who said, Hey, you didn't ask. So first never answer. The second part of the three parts is check with your gut, your intuition, your little child, what feels right, what am I giving up if I do this?
Who else could do this? Who benefits if I do this? Just a few questions and boom, here comes an answer. And then the third part, and this can be hard at first, but it gets easier, is to get back to people with the answer that honors you. that takes care of your inner child, that listens to her and honors her.
That is another way of reparenting. Again, it's really a practical thing. how would you wish your parents had treated you? And then knowing that we're really old souls when we come in it's a double [00:28:00] whammy when we're treated inappropriately or insignificant, you know what I mean?
As if we were insignificant when in our, being, we know how powerful we and yet we're being told this, a thing. So then that creates conflict and then that keeps us stuck, because we're conflicted. So and it's an ongoing thing.
So it's really fun. So that three part strategy, it can be a life changer. I share it with most of my clients and it has changed my life, let me put it that way. I used to, be the doer the go-to person and I did it because I wanted the approval. It's oh, you like me?
Yeah, they like me for five minutes cuz I did something for 'em.
Robyn: I think there's a lot of people listening who will appreciate this guidance because that is our instinct for many people. Just say yes by giving the three steps, especially that first one. Take the pause.
Christine: That's right.
Karen: Tell me, think about the behavior of that little child and how really are tuned in within themselves before they do anything. They're always so present. They follow their happiness. They follow what their interest is. they aren't necessarily [00:29:00] dissuaded by others or they don't think about what other people are thinking at all.
just fully. Themselves. I'm gonna start doing this, Christine. I promise It's so excellent.
Christine: and think of it really as, your personal sacred Trinity that is really a strong foundation of the law of three, that when you need to go in comfort, it's your masculine and feminine stepping in as mom and dad.
I got your back. Okay. You can cry or what, and I just,
Robyn: for everybody listening, most of you who have listened to this podcast for some time realize that in every person there is a masculine and a feminine side of yourself. But if you haven't, heard that in one of our previous episodes, know that it doesn't matter what your gender is.
We all have a masculine and a feminine side, and what took Christine's point is there and a child. And so really think of it that way. And you think about what each of those parts mean to you as a soul in this body I just wanna point that out for people [00:30:00] who may not a hundred percent understand what
Christine: we mean. Excellent. And, when we operate evenly on these three points where we attend to these three points, the feminine being the spiritual and the receiving, the masculine being, working out there in the world and producing and getting things, and then the child coming from trust and faith.
Innocence. Excitement, what's next. Think about it, if we're operating equally on all three, it's like what a nice balance. Yeah. What a harmonious existence Yeah. And for those that are,
Robyn: that are doing this exercise and trying to picture themselves, and I use the word trying because maybe they're having a hard time picturing their little, you or their little selves because maybe there was a lot of trauma and maybe they've wanted to block that out.
How do you suggest they help themselves heal?
Christine: Such a great question. I'm gonna be honest, this is hard to do on your own. yes you can to do that inner child reparenting. That's only us that can do that. That's an inner work, inside job, to get going and to[00:31:00] get some
practical guidance for the tool that works best for that person, to get past resistance, I do encourage people to reach out for help and support, I really do. And there's a lot of great people out there that do that. But once you get the tool, it is an inside job.
And that's the responsibility. and it really is. It's like pulling up the, big girl, big boy panties. It's like, all right, no one's gonna do this. I, no one can do this except me.
Robyn: and , when it comes to the emotional clearing work that you do or other practitioners may do, how does that also then help as you are facing that inner child
it helps identify. Because even though I say glibly, oh, your triggers will tell you what your wound is. That's kinda complicated. What do you mean? And plus we are complicated beings so again, that's why I recommend some guidance. But yes, it helps identify what those wounds are through different modalities.
For me, I really like spiritual response therapy because it's a very intuitive work. It works in the spiritual [00:32:00] realms. It works with the client's high self. So it's bypassing the ego that might be resistant or in denial. And goes to, identifying the issues, which then are usually fueled by emotions, and so let's say somebody's go-to emotion is anger. A 50 year old person that's, goes to anger a lot, has a lot of accumulated anger. So it's very easy to go there now, it's not even oh, I'm pissed off. It's like I'm angry. Like that.
And a lot of that is not just because of that situation, it's the accumulation. So emotional healing can clear accumulated emotion. It can clear patterns of, beliefs. Like when you hear them out loud, it's oh, I relate to that. Shoot. I really do that. a lot of us, once I identify the giver, and, give to receive and it's people like, oh yeah.
Oh gosh, yeah, I do that. And our culture kind of does train that religion. They focus more on the women around that, men have other issues sometimes, the imposter syndrome shows up a lot, for them, [00:33:00] which is just that they're doing their job great, but their inner child is when are they gonna find out?
It's just a kid running this show. You know what I mean? And that's just that's an inner dialogue, but it just, it shows up by maybe being defensive, that kind of a thing,
Karen: christine, you said earlier, wanna make sure I understand.
You talked about spiritual response therapy. What is your definition of that?
Christine: Spiritual response therapy. Is the name of a particular kind of work that has been developed through the seventies. The originator, Robert D with two other people.
And what they did was using their intuitive side, using a pendulum and asking questions. They develop charts and questions, that help us again, bypass the ego, get into that subconscious and identify and clear. And so it is work that is done in the spiritual realms that the purpose is to not just identify it to them to clear it.
And again, we're complicated people we might clear layers of, say [00:34:00] unworthiness, right? But then something else might come around and then you realize it's oh, that's related to. Having to share all my life. Oh, I didn't, that was under the other one. So things bubble up and, we wanna identify and clear 'em so that we're not operating from that, cuz when we're operating from our little child who is not feeling comfort or safe it's like dealing with a child that's having a temper tantrum. Yeah. It's unreasonable. You're not reaching them, they're not listening.
They're so angry at the world, and so people, it's not that obvious but it just, again it shows up. and one of the other purposes and reasons to really do our inner child work is that where it shows up the most is in relationships, both intimate personal relationships, but also friendships, family, so I look at it and trust me if my family, if they watch this podcast, they're gonna laugh, because we know, even every time we get together it's oh, sometimes it's, there's that same thing, or sometimes it's oh, we got rid of that, but not look what's [00:35:00] showing up, and so it is a little bit like, we come together, clash, and then everybody goes to their own corner to figure it out, to do their healing. and over the years we've come together better and better because, You recognize most of us are doing our work,
Karen: I think for people who are listening, that was. When I went to Sedona, Christine was the very first person that I was fortunate enough to meet there. She was my first practitioner and we did spiritual response therapy. I had never heard of it before and how incredibly unbelievably insightful it was and bubbling up those things.
It was such a wonderful way to start that experience. The whole week long experience because it surfaces things that you just don't realize are there, and to your point, Offers you ways to start clearing them through that experience right away, it doesn't mean that it's VBL end all forever and ever.
Cuz other things can come back and trigger you as well. But it's just in that recognition that those points are there. And what else was fascinating was it wasn't just from the triggers from this lifetime, You were able to identify things from past lifetimes that I [00:36:00] brought in with me that I recognized right away, even though they were from past lives.
You could just, when you bubble them up, I was like, oh yeah, I feel that it was so real. So it's just a wonderful we've learned about so many tools through all of our conversations with people who've come talk to us on our podcast. this is just another one that feels Like a method almost to
Christine: being able to, its, it's a well established method.
There's an association, a spiritual response association, if you'd like to look it up. We have to do ongoing education to keep ourselves clear. I use other people that do this work and I like other work too. Listen, again, I love what you guys are doing because it's not, one approach isn't the blanket.
I like to look at it as we're shining the diamond and the diamond has lots of facets and one tool is not going to be appropriate for every facet, So this is one of my best go-tos, and it does shift people. it has a nice immediate response, and it alleviates some of the weight of emotions, but , one tool is [00:37:00] not gonna do it. Which is why what you guys do is so awesome. You're exposing a lot of options and tools for people. Thank
Robyn: you. And I want people to know I've worked with you remotely with doing spiritual response therapy too.
It doesn't have to be only in person. You're able to do it virtually as well.
Christine: Absolutely. especially because it's taking place in the spiritual realms, the there is no time or space in there, we don't have to be in the same room, So that's what makes it so easy to do it distance.
Robyn: You are quite an expert at it. watching you do the work is it's really cool. I have to say
Christine: I love it. Thank you very much. This was great.
Robyn: Thank you for being so open and vulnerable, and also offering your wisdom and guidance and really practical exercises that we can all do every single day throughout your day, , I should say. That's right. Thank you. Because I absolutely needed to hear this today.
I needed those reminders of. That little robin inside me. and [00:38:00] to really comfort her. Throughout the day,
Karen: we're always pushing ourselves to be better, do better, improve. And we really forget that at our essence, we are worthy, we are love, we are enough just the way we are.
We don't have to do all those extra things to improve ourselves. So it really is a great way to just reflect back on, on the essence of,
Christine: of who we are. A hundred percent. I'm
Robyn: gonna share this with my daughter who's about to turn 15. I feel like even she's old enough and yet young enough to very much remember Little Bella and Yes.
And utilize this tool because I know she wouldn't want to be saying that to her little self either. And I know that she goes through a lot of these. Feelings and to your point, from a parenting I'm certainly not any sort of perfect parent, but I very much have made a very conscious choice in how I talked to Bella.
But it's how she talks to herself.
Christine: so I a hundred percent, with my one daughter, I always complimented her about her body and, cause I grew up [00:39:00] differently and, was really affirming and all of that. But she had body dysmorphia. She went into bulimia, anorexia, it was so baffling to me.
But guess what? It's because she was witnessing me, beating myself up. Wow. What I was modeling Was more impactive than I was saying. What a good reminder. What a good reminder, parents. Yay.
Robyn: I'm glad we got that in
Christine: wow, that's
Karen: That's really
Robyn: big. Christine, we'll be talking to you more.
We're so grateful for you and really thank you.
And for anyone that wants to work with Christine or find out more about her, you can visit sedona life coach.com. we'll have the link in our show notes as well. That's
Christine: awesome. you. I love you ladies so much. Appreciate so much what you do and we'll be talking soon.
Robyn: We will.