Finding Our Soul's Purpose: Robyn Brecker and Karen Loenser - Episode 2

"Seeking with Robyn" Host and Intuitive Robyn Miller Brecker and Executive Producer Karen Loenser share their seeker stories. Get to know more about them, the inspiration behind their partnership, how they began living their life’s purpose -- and why they've created "Seeking with Robyn". The goal? Create the spark so that you begin living your most fulfilled life! If you are open and curious, this may be the beginning of your journey. They want to introduce you to spiritual beliefs and practices that helped them -- and they want to take you on the journey as they continue to seek more! The intention is to help you heal, give you hope and get you back on track with why you are really here in this lifetime.

Robyn is an Emmy® award winning producer and leader in content development. For two decades she worked for Oprah Winfrey, collaborating with some of the most brilliant thought leaders of our time to create programming that has impacted millions. Prior to her time with Ms. Winfrey, she was part of the team that launched the children’s television network, Noggin, and also lived out some of her green slime dreams at Nickelodeon. She has always been at the forefront of combining wisdom, technology and storytelling to inspire and bring like-minded people together.

Karen is an award-winning television producer and digital platform innovator, who has helped shape content production and strategy for top TV networks and programming distributors like Discovery and AT&T. 

She’s obsessed with finding new mediums to create and share stories that inspire and uplift our souls.  Her dream is to create a world-wide digital platform that will feed and satisfy passionate seekers who want to explore, learn, share and embrace life’s big questions.

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Transcript

Have you ever wondered about life's biggest questions? Like, why am I here? What happens when we die? Or what else is out there, but we have, and we love to talk about it. And if you're listening, we think you probably do too. I'm Robyn and I'm Karen and we've spent our lives searching for those answers.

And we're seekers, just like you talking to some of the most fascinating spiritual teachers, healers and scientists. And showing you how you can use some of their spiritual practices for yourself. Also be sharing stories of other seekers and motivate you to live your fullest and we'll be translating it all.

So the spiritual stuff won't feel so out there. If you're curious, get ready to rediscover. Why we're here together. Hello fellow seekers. It's Robyn and Karen. And we are so excited because we launched our YouTube channel and we received such incredible feedback. We'd already started a podcast ahead of the launch of the YouTube series.

And the very first episode talks a little bit about how Robyn and I met how we started our own seekers journey and how we came together. Yeah. And it also talks about how we found our purpose and what we would love for you to do. And what we hope is that it inspires you to start thinking about your purpose and why you are really here.

So take a listen. I'm Robyn and I'm Karen, and this is our first podcast. We are so excited. We want to share the real motivation behind our series. That's right, Robyn, we are two soul sisters who have a big dream for a TV show, and we want the show and this podcast to explore different spiritual practices to help you transform your life and help you find your life's purpose.

But we also want to tell you how we got here. We're do chicks. He started off on very different paths and came together to live our lives purpose. So Robyn, why don't you start? Okay. So who am I? I was born in Brooklyn before it was cool. And I like to call myself a pizza bagel because I'm half Italian and half Jewish.

I grew up in an apartment in Bay Ridge, Brooklyn with my sister, my mom and my dad. And when I was around nine. I moved to a suburb of Chicago and it was very different. I mean, I left this very Italian neighborhood with my grandparents living nearby and you know, all of us living in a pretty small apartment and my dad got a job transfer.

And we moved to this really beautiful suburb of Chicago. It's just such a different lifestyle right before I was playing on the sidewalk and we'd have to walk down to a park and here I moved to a place where I could just run free. And I think everybody likes something different. To me. It was really one of the most freeing things to experience at a young age.

And within a few years of living there. My father actually died suddenly of a heart attack when he was 41 years old. Right. And I was 12. That's such a, a young age where you can't possibly understand what death is. No, it was, you know, it was really one of the biggest milestones in my life. It changed my life overnight.

He was this joyful. Very funny, really light of my life person, man. And he was gone with, you know, with an. The blink of an eye. He actually died in our house. I was home with my sister. My mom was there as well. And it was, it was really scary. It was just scary. And I had to grow up overnight. Right. I had to grow up much more quickly than I think I was supposed to.

Or maybe that's not the truth. Right. Like compared to your front hair, to my friends, for sure. And it made me realize that no day is promised, right? So I started to live my life, making sure I told people I love them. I really embrace this idea of living every day to its fullest at this young age, which I know sounds strange.

And within several years of my dad passing away, I lost all of my grandparents. And then. My uncle, who is my mom's brother, he passed away. Like that was kind of the end of all these important people dying. And that happened when I was in college. And so I had this really strange debt of losing all these important people in my life.

And so it was just a, that was a major. Milestone for me, which I want to now hear about, you know, what, what were yours in that beginning part of your life? It's so, first of all, it couldn't have been more different, right? I mean, I had this crazy, huge family. I was the oldest of. Six kids living in the suburbs, child of a dentist and a very wonderful devout Catholic mother who really wanted to make sure all her little check-ins learned about the lives of the saints at the dinner table and my God, or the statue of the blessed mother doing the rosary on Friday nights.

But it was strangely very secure time for me, you know, I didn't have any depths. At that stage of my life, not until way, way, much, much later, it was actually almost a mini movie in the making in the sense that my mom being the devout Catholic, that she was my grandmother as well, who I adored and was so close to were as Catholic as they were, were really interested in mediums and in the afterlife and channeled.

I mean that in itself the whole imagine, no, I have the picture in my head and that. It's so crazy. It really is. It really was. But at the time, and by the way, so the dynamic of this Catholic family with these media, but then it was also the time it was. So before any of us, I believe we're really talking about status.

I mean, and that was the thing, but again, I didn't. Nobody better. Sure. I think the funniest story I love to tell is that my, my father was one of seven boys and two of which were Benedictine monks, you know, the kinds of war, the big robes with them. Oh my goodness. And yeah, they would come over for dinner.

Cause my mom made a really good dinner and there was always so much food. And we would have these wonderful conversations with them about religion and the history behind religion and spirituality. So it was always part of my conversation growing up on the other side of the coin, I would come home from school.

Some days, and there'd be a van from Baya. Gypsy was in town and staying and doing readings for these other ladies on the street. And so Maya would sit at one end of the table and these Benedictans would be in the other, talking about religion and spirituality. And they thought they, of course, they knew it all and she loved getting up at them and remind them that astrologers.

We're the ones, you know, to point that to the baby Jesus when she, that kind of thing. But I think, I think, well, I also don't perspective just for me in the space was when my mom had my astrology chart and I was 12 again, like who did that? I mean, it was life changing Robyn. It was one of those things where she had it on audio tape and she played it back for me.

And this woman told me that I had all of these capabilities and I, all of these talents that I hadn't thought of. And one of which was I had this secret idea that I wanted to be on TV or produce or write or do something for television. And she said I was going to do that. And it was so affirming because I would, I had this conversation like a week before with my grandfather.

I asked him, should I be a teacher or should I be on TV? And he was like, Oh my gosh, Karen, be a teacher. Cause there's only like five channels, you know, do anything with that and sort of have this person plant this seed of hopefulness and this 12, 13 year old mind, it was life changing, but very different.

But the speaking of TV, I think that's so interesting as we start to think about. How we had some very common themes thread throughout our lives, right? So we were living these very separate lives, but when it comes to TV, it's really strange. I, from a young age, had this idea that I was going to work in radio, TV, or film, and just knew I was going to do something with media.

And I had dreams of working for Oprah. That's crazy. Crazy. Had. Vivid dreams. I had a picture of what her office was going to look like and that I was going to be presenting to her. And now granted, yeah, from Chicago, Oprah is our queen. And so I, I grew up watching her all the time. So I'm sure many of us from Chicago and around the world, really how to dream of working for her to visualize it.

But I very much felt. What it would be like to be there. It was that vivid. Right. And at the same time I was in high school and then college and I was very driven. To stay on course to work in television. At the time, there was no game. We were trying to visualize our lives ahead. Perhaps this stuff wasn't even invented, I wasn't even around.

So that dream turned into a reality there. Ends up being a position open to help start oprah.com, looking for someone who had television and experience on the internet. And at the time that was hard to find, but I had actually helped launch. The first on air, online channel called noggin, which was a partnership of Nickelodeon and PBS.

And so I actually had that. And when I saw that I'm like, that is going to be my job. I just, I really knew in my heart, that was where I was supposed to be. And I got the job. And what was incredible is that when we started, it actually was just a marketing site. I don't think anyone had an idea that. We could make money using the internet.

And within a year we actually became a business and. We also then became the 24 seven home for all things, Oprah. And I don't think anyone imagined that that's what we would become. And we really, we did, we were the home to the show. We were home to the magazine. We were home to her philanthropy. We were the home to the radio.

Wow. And I had this opportunity to work with some of the most brilliant thought leaders of our time. It's really been one of the major honors of my life. And so I think it's so interesting that you had this woman tell you something. And I had this just ingrained in me that I had to follow this path towards or in TV, not knowing there's such a thing as the internet.

And then it all came together. And my dream for working for Oprah. So, wow. That's it, that's a milestone. That was my milestone, but I mean, it's, it is amazing to kind of see how having that kind of vision played out or how, and you had the vision. I had a little seed planted, but it's just amazing to see how that just blossomed into something so amazing for you.

I mean, for me, I started in TV too. I did actually follow that dream, which was, which is great, but I, I was a little bit more trepidatious. I didn't have. That vision so much. I don't think I had that confidence that, that you might've had to follow the dream, but I did start working a little TV studio, which is owned by the Catholic church.

Of course, my God. I love, I love it. Yeah. Tiny job that built my confidence, but I also felt like I really needed to have an identity. So I got married, very young, had a baby, very young. And then my husband walked out on us while my baby daughter was about a year old. So I had to pack up and move back home and really start my life over as a single mom, which was kind of like my worst fear.

I didn't want to, I didn't want my life to be that way, but it was a worthy challenge that I helped me develop a great relationship with my daughter even to today, but also made me a stronger, I think person and absolutely, and I let go at the minute I started to kind of let go of the fear. I think that's when the joy came back into my life.

And I met my now wonderful husband and got pregnant with my son, but then a little bit of a rollercoaster ice came. So my kind of time that, that you had had very young was sort of like my young middle life crisis, because I had a really difficult time delivering my son. I almost actually died at that, which was.

Scary. Not only for me, but for the whole family, but managed to get through that just fine. And then six months later, we said grandma's diagnosed with cancer. So yeah, we went through a lot of touch and go with him over the course of a couple of years, but he thankfully got better, but then died of suicide.

So that was. Totally unforeseen and our family. And it was devastating to all of us, obviously. And then my grandmother, who I was so close to passed away. So it was, it was like within a very short course of time that I was given all of these milestones that really rocked my world. But at the same time, Kind of cracked me open because I had to make this choice between love and fear.

Like Oprah always says yes. And I had to decide whether or not I wanted to sort of look for the meaning and. Try to decide if, if there was any more to it. If my sister was on the other side, right? If this energy healing could help my son, you know, I opened myself up to all those modalities that were sort of planted within me around that dining room table as a kid and decided whether I was going to embrace them.

And I found that once I did that, my life completely changed. And my, my quest for learning more and learning about what that purpose really meant. Began. Well, I can understand and relate to how that does. And, and as I think about that time period of my life, I lost all of those people. I think I became a bit numb to grief, even though I went through therapy and I really accepted what happened and moved along.

I had my uncle who ended up taking over as the father figure in my life. So that part of my life felt okay. Although I never got to say goodbye to my. Dad, I would think about what would he think about what I'm doing? What would he say? And we had these mediums walking through the doors of the Oprah Winfrey show.

Let's say from 2000 to 2010, it never occurred to me. Maybe I should try to see if they can connect with my dad. It just never. Did and it wasn't until I had my daughter and she was around two years old. I happened to be home one afternoon and flipping through people magazine and they see this woman who looks like she could be my friend and didn't look weird.

Not at all. She looked. Like we would go and have coffee. Yeah. I mean, cause I think the idea a lot of people have is like, it's scary, it's taboo, you know, they're only kind of weird. We would kind of people who do this. And so having that sense of gosh, you know, she's an approachable person who looks like my best friend, put a different spin on it.

Yes. And so I, I looked at that and I did have something kind of clicked in my head, like. This could be something that you do. I didn't tell anybody though. I don't know why. I didn't even tell my sister who obviously had experienced the same thing I did and I didn't even tell her. And because of my role@oprah.com, I would be talking to publicists and agents all the time.

And a few weeks after seeing that article, I started receiving calls. From different people about this woman that I wasn't going to be coming through Chicago. And she really wanted to meet with certain people at Harpo. And would I be open to meeting with her? And this woman ended up being Rebecca Rosen.

Who's the woman who was in that people magazine article. Who's the media, it's crazy serendipity. It was. And you know, she knew nothing about. What had happened in my life. I know that there was no way at that time to see any of it. And I, something was inside me thinking this might be the time. And I didn't say anything to her during our initial meeting, but she invited myself and some of my colleagues to a reading she was doing that night.

And that night in March of 2010, my life changed. Because my dad came through and I reconnected with him and heard what I needed. I didn't know. I needed to hear honestly, but I did changed my life. It changed the way I looked at everything. In terms of life and death. Yeah. And then in that room, listening to all these other people who had also experienced such loss, right.

And their eyes and their hearts opening in a way that I knew they were going to walk out very similarly to me think, Oh my goodness. We never really die. Right. We change form and you can't talk to them in the way they used to. However, they're, they're still there. And so that was really the beginning of a whole new chapter in my life.

And of course I'm still working and doing my job and I'm so grateful for all the experiences that I was having through my job at Oprah. And I love my husband and I love my daughter, but over several years, I started to get this yearning for something else. There was a voice inside me that was telling me, and I needed to do something else, which was hard for me to imagine, because here I am with a dream job, honestly, but something wasn't yeah.

Fulfilling me like it used to. And that seemed really strange to me because all the other aspects of my life we're fulfilling, I started to feel lost and embarrassed. Honestly, I didn't really want to tell people this because. On paper. My life seemed pretty remarkable. That's so interesting. Cause I feel like.

This is now kind of where are our lives start to, I agree, go in a parallel direction. Um, and even as you're talking, I was reminded that all during that period of time, but particularly the Oprah show that all that work you guys were doing was impacting he's so much too. I just was realizing that like, I'm watching that show.

I'm being inspired by all of those people on that show to continue. Those still kept those seeds growing in me. Oh yes. Oh yes. I literally just was thinking of that. How interesting that even as you're going down your path. You are impacting my mine, obviously in so many, but me in particular to be able to keep moving.

I mean, like being in a hospital that literally I'm watching that show from there and, and being able to move forward with that hope that, you know, cause I was, grandma's getting energy healing, like we were stuff at the time. So that was an amazing thing. But I think. I finally got to the point of my career.

I think we're where you are as well. I think what happens is something comes into your light, like these experiences or the things that trigger you to wonder what is my life purpose. It's the thing that touches your heart so much that you just know that you've got to do what you came here to do.

Everything in my life was great too, but I got to a point where I was getting near 50. I had been doing great jobs, but I wasn't. Fulfilled. I was earning a paycheck. That's what I was doing most days. And I wasn't giving my best back because it wasn't my purpose. I wasn't giving my heart back to my work. I was just.

Working. Yeah. And so I'm sure like most 50, when you do that thing, like, Oh my God, how much time do I have left? And I better get started doing what I'm really hopeful for. Yeah. Right. So I made the choice, um, with my husband of course, to make the leap, to go to discovery because I had this idea with all this stuff, with all these experiences that I had.

Wouldn't it be? So cool. If we could create this mind body spirit network, bring all these energy healers, bring all of these mediums, bring all of these astrologers together and more and teach people that they have capabilities within themselves to find their purpose. And they have these modalities that they can use.

To discover who they really, really, really are. So I made the decision to pack up my truck and go and move to silver spring, Maryland, and take on this job at discovery in the hopes that this network could somehow come to life. And that's where you and I then started to really be on this. I, yes, it is. I would say for me that.

For so long. I knew my purpose. I did everything that I kind of said out to do. Right. I wanted to work for Oprah and I did. Yeah. I want it to help change people's lives. And I feel like was part of that in some way. Yeah. And I still wanted to continue with helping change people's lives. I just knew I had to make a shift in terms of what I was actually doing on a daily basis.

So. I set out on my own spiritual journey. And for me that entailed talking to my friend, who's a medium, I was very conscious of her time, so I didn't ever want to take advantage of her. And I made an appointment to talk to her on April 25th of 2018. And actually my sister was going to come along with me because we were both looking for some guidance in our lives.

Right. And that week actually leading up to it was my birthday week. What better time? Exactly. And so it was going to a party during my birthday weekend and we didn't know what to expect when we got there. And there was a psychic that was at this party and she didn't know anything about us, but everybody was going to get 15 minutes with her.

And so I had my time with her and she said to me, You do something really rare and you've been really successful at this, but you're going to do something that is completely in line with your soul's purpose and it's going to be even more successful. And. I don't know how to tell you this, but people are going to know who you are.

Wow. And I thought, but okay, like, yeah, I'm hope I need hope. Right. This was giving me hope. And she actually was very clear about my timeline. She said, don't put your job tomorrow, but by the end of the year, I think you'll be done doing whatever it is you do right now. And then you're going to use 2019 to really work on this next project.

And by 2020, it's going to take off. I really was in awe because I get to a dinner party drinking out of some fine. I have no idea you're going off on. You had no idea. Right. And so, but inside, right. It was like, Oh my gosh, I'm getting some validation validation that there is some change and that I'm not completely nuts for wanting to change what I'm doing.

It's coming from somewhere. Really outside of myself, you know? And then several days later I had my appointment with my friend, Lisa. And as soon as I walked in, she said, what are you working on? And I said, I don't know. And that's why I'm here. Please help me. She had no idea. She had no idea. She just, at that time, she just thought I still had my job at Oprah.

And. Right, which I did, but I, she had no idea it was brewing. Right. And we kind of spent the whole session talking about many things, but she came back to, what are you working on right now? And I said, well, I actually just decided that I'm going to write this article about the night, a medium change my life.

And she said, that's it. That article is going to lead to so many other things in your life, including books or TV show. And she said, and you're a medium. Well, now it's like, we've gotten to crazy land cause you're in the medium in your office. But like, I don't know what you're talking about. That's way much more than you expect it was.

It was. And she said, no, please trust me. I need you to take a class. Do you something where you pursue this? Cause if you're going to write about it, at least you'll have a better understanding, but I think you're going to find that you know how to do this. Wow. And, and I walked out of that session with such hope and I really thought about what she said, and I got excited even writing that article.

And so the idea that this could be my job right now and not necessarily that I'm the media, but that there was something with that. Right. Really? That day was a turning point and that was April 25th of 2018. And then about few weeks later, talking to a friend of mine who. Did not know that I believed in mediums.

I believed in energy healing. I was open. She didn't know that I had told her I was writing this article and that's where it came up. And she said, well, I know all these people and I'm gonna hook you up with that. Okay. So then I was hooked up with this shaman who I really just wanted to understand what she did.

It was shocking to me that this beautiful woman. I'm sitting across from me was a shaman. I somehow pictured a native American man who was going to take me through the desert and that's cool too. This was just completely different. Wow. And in the middle of our conversation, she said, let's talk about you.

And I said, what do you want to talk about? And in that conversation about me and she's like, well, you know, you're supposed to have your own TV show. And I should also say that Lisa, when she said that to me, She gave me that same timing that the psychic did. And then this, this ShawMan, she said, I can help you do this.

And I was just like, okay, well sign me up because I want to change my life. I'm ready for that change. Now she did not give me necessarily timing, but she, she gave me the confidence that this was going to happen within the next year and a half. And so I did start to work with her. I also, at that time had other mediums coming into my life.

Nobody here knew each other. That's the key. They didn't know each other. And while Lisa knew me as a person, she did not know what was going on in my life or what I was thinking. And they all said the same thing. And so it was extremely validating to me as to what I needed to do for my next chapter. It started to give me my purpose again.

And if you let yourself. Kind of glob onto those ideas and they felt right to you, but then you had one person after another, after another affirm that for you, they did. And the truth, what the shaman was able to see. And obviously these other people are able to see. Is that I actually had that dream when I was a very little girl, I wanted to have a TV show because again, we didn't have the internet then, so I couldn't picture anything.

Right. But I saw myself being someone who brought people together for a reason. It wasn't like an actress. It was actually more of a connector. Right. And I, I really did see that. I didn't know how that would come to be. And so. That talking to the third and then fourth and fifth person gave me the confidence to realize I needed to do this.

And I figure out what was I going to do to make a difference in people's lives, but this show and sort of dream into that. And that was the same time that you and I were working together on a project for both discovery and own. And while that project didn't actually come to fruition, I know you and I really connected.

And in one of our. Post meetings after we knew the project wouldn't go forward. We wanted to recap about that. I was telling people about the article that was coming out because now it was July of 2018. And I remember saying, you guys have to check out this article. It's going to be on oprah.com. It's about the night and the medium changed my life.

And it really started a conversation amongst. Several people. Yeah. Mediums. And I was like, tell me, cause you and I had never talked about it, about it. You really didn't. And. We had to get the meeting started. So I said, we have to get going on this meeting, but don't worry about it because we're going to talk about it on my show.

And everybody looked at me. Yeah. I couldn't even believe what came out of my mouth because here I am a full time employee of own. And I said that, like, what show are you talking about girl on the faces of everyone, but we just kind of kept going. And then you called me after. And you said, what are you talking about?

And we connected about our spiritual journeys and you said, well, let's do this together. It was magic for me when I heard you say that, because I was so disappointed that this idea, this project, and I thought, I said, Oh, this is why I'm here. This is what I'm supposed to be doing. And I get to work with all these amazing people from own.

That was that dream come true for me. And when you know, the dream comes true, doesn't it. Come true you. I was really at that point where I didn't know what I was going to do next. I didn't know what my purpose is, was anywhere either. And when you, when you made that comment, it was like a light went off in my mind.

And which also gave me the courage to call you that conversation and the courage to tell you I had my dream. So if you hadn't said what you did, you said high courage. I wouldn't have been able to share that with you. So it was, it was just such a magical was, and, and I think you, and I believe that was meant to be right.

We unlocked things for each other. I also want people to know that you had shared with me the deck that you put together presentation. I was going to be so ready for when, and you were so ahead of your time. And so. I was reviewing the deck so that we could then start to figure out, well, how do we really make this happen?

And I have signs for my dad that really validate to me that he's around and my signs are his initials, which were our a M so every time I see Ram, it's a hugely at the exact right time. And then there's Cardinals. And the is 1117, cause that is his birthday. And that number has already always just played a role because it doesn't come up that often it's special.

Right. And I even actually, you named my production company, 1117 productions, right. And so when I went and I'm looking at this presentation and I go to save it on my desktop, I look at the numbers and the numbers are 1117, and it was 1117 underscore 2015. It was the day it was that I had created and saved it.

And I have to say too, it's so funny. There were so many versions of that file I could have sent you. I must have had 40 of them. Oh my no kids. And I remember it's like, okay, well I think that was, maybe it didn't matter at the time. Right. It was just like, let's just show her some ideas. Yes. So the fact that, well, and I stared at it, I started crying.

I saved it, but I started crying and I. Called you because I just was in awe. I was in awe because was so meant to be. And that like, Oh, I see. I really was able to see in that moment. And there've been many sense that my dad and I somehow this, like there was a purpose to him leaving and to. Me losing my father so early and there was a purpose and that purpose is to help others awakened what they can't see.

And that in that moment I thought I have a partner. Yeah. I know. And I felt the same way. And I think when we look back, what we realized is if that project had gone through it would have been great. I've been so fun to work on, but you probably went off and done your own thing. Anyway. And I would have been sort of stuck on the same path that I was on.

And now we have this opportunity to create and launch something that we envision our perfect vision of what this show and hopefully larger platform can ultimately be. And that is where. You all come in because we can't do this without you. We want to know what kinds of topics, what kinds of stories do you want to hear?

Because this show that we're putting together is really meant. To help transform people's lives and get you in touch with why you're really here. I mean, we've both been at those crossroads. We've both had these milestone moments in our lives that have had us really seriously questioned. Why, why we're here.

And we're really excited about this idea of having a place, a show that just launches those conversations. And that does show you that these modalities can make such a difference in your life. Yeah, and we have collected of course our own ideas of what we want to start to cover and introduce and explore because there may be some of these modalities that you've heard of and others that you haven't, and there's probably things we don't know about.

So we would love to hear from you, please go to seeking with robyn.com or find me on social. But seeking with Robyn, Robyn, the name of the show idea. Yes. So all of that, all that information will be up there on the website. But like I said, anything that you want us to share with us, any ideas, any, any major experiences that you've had share those with us?

Cause we would love to hear about those too. We do. And we hope that this first episode helps you understand who we are. Why we're doing what we're doing and we hope it's starting to make you think about the milestones in your own life. And we think that's important because as you listen to more of these episodes, as we start to put together this show, it's going to be really important that you start to think about those milestones.

And what role have they played in your life? Right so that you can then start to figure out if you're feeling lost, let's find your purpose. Why are you here? We hope that this show, this TV show, this point podcast will inspire you to really get to the core of why you're here. And then we want to hear about it.

Oh, I love that. You couldn't have said it better. Robyn .